Other than the testimonies of many patients about the reality of the Primal experience, there is also our research. We filmed those reliving early pain at the UCLA Pulmonary lab. While in the primal, reliving a lack of oxygen at birth, patients had what I call locomotive breathing. It sounded like a freight train and went on for over twenty minutes. The patients neither got dizzy nor faint. But in an experiment later with no reliving I had them breathe deeply for as long as they could. Within a very few minutes they started to get dizzy and were about to faint. So what was the difference? Why did heavy breathing make them faint in one case, deliberately trying, and not in the other where feelings were coming up to be fully experienced. That is, not trying for a feeling.
The difference was a deeply embedded real need for oxygen. The patients were back in their baby selves trying to keep from dying from anoxia. It was not an exercise directed by a doctor but a need from inside. And that was the difference. It told us why there was incipient fainting among all the research subjects, and it informed us about basic need. Those were not faked actions but something organic and historic. It demonstrates the difference between Primal and following directions from the doctor; such as “Tell your mother”, or ”Scream at your father for his punishing you”. Those are useless because they originate higher in the brain in non primal situations, and do not reflect the brain and time when the punishment occurred. Following orders and feeling one’s past are two entirely different things. They reflect two different brain systems at work; one is healing and the other is alleviating but not resolving. We must talk to the right brain; the one that does not talk but can feel. The mature adult brain cannot do it; the harder it tries the worse it gets because it remains alienated from the patient’s own history.
It is no different from patients who cry and cry over long periods in our therapy. Once opened up they cry for the thousands of tears they could not express at the time. And the tears are real as is the sound of the crying. Fake cries have a hollow sound with no affect behind them.
That separates Primal Therapy from other approaches. If we want to reach the patient’s early history and what happened to him we must engage the brain active at the time of the original trauma. This is precisely why cognitive approaches cannot resolve and cure. We are dialing in the wrong brain and trying to get it to do what it cannot do. Feel.
Dear Art ,
ReplyDeleteHave started my studies for a BA Psychology. My first topic is 'Can ' talk therapy' cure severe depression ? Boy am I glad I found your peer reviewed journal article ' The Mystery Known As Depression' in the Activitas Nervosa Superior 2013. What a breath of fresh air to read your writing.
I'm still scared to take an open stand and say I'm standing with Janov on this because he knows and I know he knows.
Why am I so scared to take a stand and be open with my class mates and lecturer that I agree with Dr. Arthur Janovs work.
Well I've already quoted you in my research and it feels so good!
And I will be keeping you close in your writings and comparing all other authors to your work as I go to keep me from those who have given up on a cure for depression and anxiety.
I know how to access my feelings, now I need to excercise my brain and sharpen my intellect. And bring them togerher.
I'm doing this to get the qualification necessary to help share the feeling healing process.
I havn't given up on coming over to do the training but can't afford to stay in the US longer than one month . But as a Psychologist It would be possible. Anyway I'll keep working on it.
Thank you for all your encouragement and help.
And all your writings and research.
Katherina
Katherina, I am really proud of what you are doing. I wish you all the best. love art
DeletePs. It was a huge step for me to go to uni.
ReplyDeleteI was and am so scared. But I won't back down. I want to stand up and say ' your wrong' and your not going to make me wrong anymore. It's a big feeling ....I feel so small. I know you would understand. Thanks for listening
K
Katherina, I really do hear you. It is a big unfeeling world out there so, as they say in French, Courage.
DeleteI don't have to prove something that's already been proven.
ReplyDeleteThank god you already did the research.
Love is something else than what you ever just can think of! Love is beautiful and free from suffering... it is in its relationship as close to someone you can get... free as the wind can pass by!
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Hi Katherina,
ReplyDeleteI think the 'talking therapy' should be for the talking therapists in training to understand why they talk. Then, maybe then, they would understand why talking is limited to their thinking and cannot help them feel. Unless it's in the Primal Theory framework.
The whole thing is a circular 'discussion' until the Primal reality is applied.
Paul G.
Hi Paul,
ReplyDeleteGreat to hear from you.Today I'll be viewing my first lectures in psychology and right now I'm thinking,how can Psychology call itself a Health Science when it ignores science? No one talks about Primal Therapy research in Psychology. Am I supposed to pretend the emporer has new clothes? That would be akin to having a delusion. It's looking like the science of psychology is having some delusions.
Anyway my lecturer is posing the question, Can ' talk therapy' cure severe depression? I feel like saying, Why do you even need to ask this question? And if you don't know, why not?
Thanks for pointing out the circuitous aspects of the discussion.
Grateful for your blog
Katherina
Katherina, You will love my next book, the Psychology of Everyday Life, coming out in the next few months. art
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