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Saturday, April 2, 2016
More on Feelings
A story from my life. I had just finished writing the Primal Scream which sold in the millions worldwide. Before the sale, a copy of my manuscript was lying on the kitchen table. My father came in for his yearly visit and walked by the kitchen to see his grandchildren. On his way in he saw the manuscript and asked what it was. I told him it was a book I just finished called the Primal Scream. He walked by and rummaged through the pages in about one minute, not reading any of it and said, “we know all that”. And walked on. That was what he thought of my years of work. He denigrated me and made me feel stupid daily and so when it looked like I did something smart he had to dismiss it. He was terrified of looking and being dumb. He never considered the impact it had on me; it was part of his daily rituals, “Hey stupid, hand me that tool.”
His only way to feel superior was to make me feel inferior, like he felt down deep. And throughout my early life I felt completely stupid; never once thought of going to college, convinced I could never make it.
My early primals were always, “Say I’m OK, just once, please“. Never to come “I begged, could you cherish me a little? Say I’m good. Tell me that you like me. I am your son. He could not because he felt the same way, and could not offer anything to me because his whole system needed it first. There was never a book, a record or even a magazine in the house. All he read were detective horror murder stories with those ugly drawings accompanying them. Of course my mother was illiterate so she could never read; she signed with an “X”. We never had one conversation in her whole life. She lived on a different planet. My father treated us like dogs. He never talked directly to us and when they left to go to the insane asylum for my mother for years there was not a minute of explanation. We were given over to strangers; my sister to another strange family. We were never close after that.
What I hear in patients who are primaling, when I ask them to beg their parents for love, “What’s the use, they are unfeeling robots so what is the point”? The point is that this need for approval and love is still there and never goes away. It has to be relived; it is their own private feelings inside them no matter how robotic parents are. I too felt, what is the use? But I know I had to feel that deep deep need and be rid of it. So I needed to plead to my father just once: “Say I’m good, please just once, say I’m good.” ……… Never.
Of course in school I get involved with the most critical colleagues and tried to make them like me; what a struggle; all driven by feeling so unliked. Just like my father who felt like a failure and finally as I wrote previously: he was driving down the street, I was twenty something and without looking at me, staring straight ahead, bemoans, “I feel like a failure”. There it was, twenty years late and much too late to change the deep-seeded imprint that destroyed my life. He never looked at me. He just had to get this feeling out to no one in particular. It was his mini-primal. It was never the same problem with my mother because she was lost in her world and had no plans for me; never knew where I went to school or if I went to school and did not care. I played hookey a lot, missed key classes. It was no loss as I was so anxious I could not listen or pay attention and certainly could never learn. (All my class notes say, Janov is nervous). But she never tried to make me into anything and that was life-saving. They were Russian peasants, after all, chased out of Russia by the Cossacks. They never had a life, either. I fell close to the tree but fought my way out of. I discovered something to save my life; and oh yes, the lives of many others.
So now if you ask if I started out to change the world? I would say “No, I just never wanted the world to change me. I never wanted to join their world. That would have been the end of me”.
This post touched me.
ReplyDeleteHello Art!
ReplyDeleteOne more of your fantastic post!
"So now if you ask if I started out to change the world? I would say “No, I just never wanted the world to change me. I never wanted to join their world. That would have been the end of me”". Yes... we should be at the wrong part of our brain then to possible help ourselves! But we also need to be where we are to get the opportunity to be at the right place in our brain because we are to lost to do anything like it by our self... we do not know what to say or do. I know you help but most of us need the opportunity to get the help we need.
Your Frank
Hello Art!
ReplyDeleteOne more of your fantastic post!
"So now if you ask if I started out to change the world? I would say “No, I just never wanted the world to change me. I never wanted to join their world. That would have been the end of me”". Yes... we should be at the wrong part of our brain then to possible help ourselves! But we also need to be where we are to get the opportunity to be at the right place in our brain because we are to lost to do anything like it by our self... we do not know what to say or do. I know you help but most of us need the opportunity to get the help we need.
Your Frank
Beautiful, thanks!
ReplyDeleteDr. Janov,
ReplyDeleteYou wrote: “I feel like a failure”. How do you feel today?
For what my five cent wisdom is worth, you are great wonderful and a human being I love and respect.
Why?
You gave me the key to a door, a door I know exists somewhere, but couldn’t find in my ever present pain.
You not only gave me the key, you showed me the reason why I must open this door
– it is the door to consciousness.
I’m forever grateful to you.
You ask: “So now if you ask if I started out to change the world? I would say “No, I just never wanted the world to change me. I never wanted to join their world. That would have been the end of me”.
I’m so glad that you never joined their world, because you would have changed and never written any of your books the world so desperately need.
BTW, I think the same way. I never liked to be someone else.
Sieglinde
A little can go a long way...a parent has a responsibility to their child. Not only the responsibility of caring and teaching them how to be in life, they have the responsibility to recognize a child who is doing well, and to make sure that they (the parent )have the ability to know this and acknowledges, relays this fact to their child. Now, in this world, the way kids are...they may not even listen to the parent who may tell them how good they are doing. But still a lot of children do listen when their parents acknowledge that the child has done well. Not to acknowledge a child when they are doing well, is such a waste. Now the parent doesn't really think about how the relationship will be with their child before it is born; because it is not a "spontaneous" thought; spontaneity is what is "out there today". Sure being spontaneous is a good thing at times, but in the case of being a parent and giving no thought to their child's mental well-being; spontaneity is not good in that case. Some do take an interest; those that do are showing love and not mental abuse. Common sense; use common sense when being a parent. What just because the parent never received acknowledgement from their parents then their own child must suffer? To acknowledge that a child is doing well, and to tell that child periodically, is a good thing for parent/child relationship. Does one have so little a heart and not enough brains to give their own child a "boost" with their lives ? A "mental boost".
ReplyDeleteNow it's not even that with so many parents....it's that many of them are just "lost" and don't even know how to parent. They want to be in with "the era" and that is showing uncaring cold aggressiveness (as many teenagers are now; which is sad). Just a recognition and acknowledgement from a parent to a good child; that is part of the love.
Hi Art,
ReplyDeleteI wonder if you have encountered the 'Slow Movement'?
perhaps some of the people involved might be interested in Primal as 'Slow' seems to appeal to the parasympathetic in us. That as you said in some much earlier posts seems to be the nervous system function that allows for access to imprints. . . Thus by proxy, Primal is already an unwitting member of the 'Slow Movement'.
Check out Carl Honore and:
Professor Guttorm Fløistad who summarised the philosophy thus:
"The only thing for certain is that everything changes. The rate of change increases. If you want to hang on you better speed up. That is the message of today. It could however be useful to remind everyone that our basic needs never change. The need to be seen and appreciated! It is the need to belong. The need for nearness and care, and for a little love! This is given only through slowness in human relations. In order to master changes, we have to recover slowness, reflection and togetherness. There we will find real renewal."
There is a fence, a fence between the world that wants me to conform and and be normal, and me who want to be myself. It's lonely on my side, but I feel there is life here, real life. And I enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteTerrific. art
DeleteYa have to feel it to heal it.
ReplyDeleteAn email comment:
ReplyDelete"Wow Art: However did you manage to make it??????? Had that been me, I am, sure I would have died. It boggles my mind to think you got a bachelors let alone a masters and a PhD. What a great, great story.."
And my answer: Not easy. art
DeleteI think this is one of your best contributions to date Art - it's personal, direct, heartfelt and purposeful and is devoid of intellectual clinical mumbo-jumbo - more of this please.
ReplyDeleteHi Art,
ReplyDeletesome days ago I went through the throes!! of a 88 years...Lady(?9 the mother of my suicided friend?
She treated me with disrespect,cynical, and full of hatred!
I wonder how on earth someone of that Age could be that infamous ...
I hope that if I ever would reach that Age I will be mor of your
"style" treating People.
Yours emanuel
I wonder why on earth someone that old... can be so full of hate, denigrating me,being cynical toward m e ...!
I once was the "waste -bag" -in earnest- of him and his whole Family!
As You Show it ; old -Age cannot be the culprit of being like her.
If ever reach that Age ... I hope I will be more like You!!!
Yours emanuel
I can so relate to this story about human meanness, made more acute because it comes from a parent, and a psycho Western culture that still demands that one should honor one's mother and father no matter what (to hell with that!).My own story revolves around my mother's obsession that I was lazy, lazy, lazy, lazy.Nothing I could say could convince her otherwise, including that I was first in my class, and that took some work. But no: her fascist hate towards me would still spew out. Dirty lazy disgusting Marco. While the "nice" old man would walk away not defending me, but at least not contributing to the hate.He would come out with some stupid banality like : "can't we just get along?" . Answer: NO! Decades later, even if things are better, I still feel that I have never been able to really get to the root of the problem between my mother and I, some unconscious fixation that has never been severed.Perhaps this pleading for love might result in some breakthrough, but, I must say, my first reaction to this pleading for love is: I won't give her or anyone else the satisfaction to know that she hurt me. Rather, I will fight back and resist as I have all my life. ( "The angry man is the unloved man..."- Janov, The Primal Scream )
ReplyDeleteI saw some similarities with my situation in a book I read recently called " Will there ever be a morning?" , which is the autobiography of a woman who was a famous actress at one time, Francis Farmer ( 30s and 40s). She had a wild temper and very negative reputation in Hollywood ( aspects of which she justifiably hated), was alcoholic, yet was highly sensitive and artistic. Her parents put here away in an asylum for 8 years, in the late 40s and early 50s, a totally unjustified commitment in a squalid cruel institution. Anyways, her and her psycho eccentric mother seemed to be locked in an unending battle which neither could sever or understand.
Marco
Beautiful and humbling, it made me feel, thanks ;-)
ReplyDeletethanks so much. art
DeleteThank you for reading the blog. art
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