tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post6137723287384155661..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: The Mysteries of Some BehaviorsArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-66253987352226823252015-05-06T14:04:37.095-07:002015-05-06T14:04:37.095-07:00Interesting, Gary. I have received a wolf whistle...Interesting, Gary. I have received a wolf whistle only once in my life. It came from a car full of girls.. no males to be seen anywhere.. so I was delighted to receive the whistle. I was smiling for quite some time afterwards. Maybe they were just joking around but it felt nice to me. Who doesn't want to be desirable?<br />In my job I work with about 250 young attractive girls (flight attendants and front of house staff). On their days off, some of them arrive at the airport showing most of their breasts and wearing tights that show the explicit shape of their vulva. Being a shuttle driver, I hear a lot of sexual comments, especially from the male pilots who seem to feel that they are above the company's laws. Most of the girls who receive these comments undoubtedly enjoy the attention... I often see the same smug smiles on their faces that I had on mine when I received that one and only whistle.<br />We live in a world full of hot-blooded human primates. We cannot expect a poorly socialised construction worker to refrain from flirting at all times. We all have to live together in this world -- a little give and take from everyone.<br />A long time ago I chatted with a social worker who was arranging for me to see a cognitive therapist. She was extremely attractive and wore a blouse with a plunging neckline that showed off far too much cleavage.... essentially pornographic. She soon noticed that I couldn't stop staring at her outrageously exposed breasts. She was not offended at all. She casually left the room to do something. When she came back she was wearing a pink cardigan which was buttoned up so that I couldn't see her cleavage anymore. We carried on with our conversation, we maintained eye contact, and when we parted she even told me she liked me. <br />I wondered why she didn't feel naked when her boobs were hanging out. I also found it interesting how she accommodated for my impulsive staring rather than demanding that I behave in a more respectful manner. Perhaps her intuitive brain could see that I was trying to be respectful, but failing.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-76331941910519308732015-05-06T03:42:37.704-07:002015-05-06T03:42:37.704-07:00Anonymous said...
Hi Despertaares; People believe...Anonymous said... <br />Hi Despertaares; People believe what they want, and in general, it is PRETTY DARN CRAZY....However, an ex friend of mine, also, like me, an ex Anarchist activist (ie very aware of globalisation and what it does to people, and therefore by inference with a sound moral sense), recently said to me, in response to my expressing horror at Afghan women being publicly hanged for adultery under Taliban law, and with not a hint of irony, "Who are we to judge what is right or wrong in a foreign culture?" <br />That´s crazy. Accepted morality taken to a logical conclusion. All humanity taken out of the equation. All FEELING. I´ve heard exactly the same "argument" to justify factory farming. There´s no feeling, and no feeling is SICK. Gary<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-89623347977256166892015-05-04T03:31:30.837-07:002015-05-04T03:31:30.837-07:00Hi Richard
Thanks for your thoughtful posts. You s...Hi Richard<br />Thanks for your thoughtful posts. You sound as if you attribute destructive and harmful male behaviour primarily to nature, rather than nurture. I don´t. The abuse women endure in every sphere of their lives cannot be in the natural scheme of things. I receive a regular newsletter from "feminist current" which has really opened my eyes to what women have to put up with. A recent poll of 600 women in Paris found that ALL of them had suffered sexual harassment/intimidation on the Paris underground before the age of 18, and ALL had since. REGULARLY. A 23 year old English woman recently endured a month of daily wolf whistles, shouted sexual remarks and even having her path blocked by builders on her way to work. Eventually she reported it to the police. The media got hold of it and both men AND women joined in a media debate in which the whole thing was treated as a game and her feelings mocked & trivialised. The very fact that a story like this is set up as a juicy back-and-forth debate suggests that a woman’s right to be treated as a human being is still being called into question. We have not conclusively agreed, in 2015, that women have the right to walk the streets, wearing whatever they choose, without being shouted and whistled at.<br />Sarah Green, acting director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition, questions the media’s “cynical framing” of “a story with lots of detail and angles”. “Some of the newspapers have wilfully misrepresented what happened and created an impression of someone who responded disproportionately to something she should just ignore – that isn’t what happened. She was left with few alternatives."<br />"She continues: “Just because someone somewhere has a personal opinion that wolf-whistling and boorish behaviour is ‘fun’ and not criminal does not make it right – try living with the day-to-day drip, drip feeling that someone is acting in a way that causes you fear and knowing that they just don’t care about the impact on you.”<br />"In reality, though, we are hardly facing an epidemic of self-righteous women wasting police time with unimportant issues. In fact, the opposite is true. Many young women I have spoken to have endured groping and unwanted touching that falls squarely under the UK law on sexual assault, but would never dream of reporting it to the police because we live in a world in which it is considered a normal part of being a woman, or “just a bit of banter”.<br />I submit that the oppression of women by men and by the male controlled legal & educational/media systems can only occur when neurosis is preexistent and provides fértile soil. Pornography is therefore not a root cause of violence against women. It aggravates violence and dehumanisation by legitimising and encouraging it, but both pornography and the behaviour it triggers are caused by primal trauma. To believe otherwise is to have a very negative & cynical view of human beings, especially men, and tragically, this is by far the majority attiitude. Gary<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-36405485712684742462015-05-02T22:06:35.425-07:002015-05-02T22:06:35.425-07:00Art: I am rereading this over & over.. Thank y...Art: I am rereading this over & over.. Thank you. JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-16244830154119710622015-05-01T13:09:39.421-07:002015-05-01T13:09:39.421-07:00Steve, you can trust me too. That is not what he ...Steve, you can trust me too. That is not what he meant. <br /><br />Some quotes from a psychology website which have as much credibility as a typical scholarly article:<br /><br />"Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is more commonly diagnosed in boys than girls, but research into ADHD in adulthood suggests an almost equal balance between men and women."<br /><br />"Greater self-referrals among adult women may underlie the more balanced gender ratio."<br /><br />"Women are less likely to be diagnosed because the guidelines used in assessment and diagnosis have traditionally focused on males."<br /><br />"A 2005 study looking at gender differences in ADHD found higher rates of “oppositional defiant disorder” and “conduct disorder” in males, and higher rates of “separation anxiety disorder” in females"<br /><br />You see a pattern here? Little girl seeks help and clings to mommy... little boy goes his own way. Not always but there do seem to be gender-specific tendencies.<br /><br />Ever wondered why girls get better grades at school? Maybe girls are easier to control because they are genetically programmed to keep the peace. Keeping the peace is a sensible strategy for an ape that is physically weaker and busy breastfeeding.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35557817179635761822015-04-30T12:12:17.605-07:002015-04-30T12:12:17.605-07:00Made sense to me. 'He' is just a more conv...Made sense to me. 'He' is just a more convenient a term to use. <br /><br />SteveAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13202466591672144117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-86273731084424900332015-04-29T18:37:13.190-07:002015-04-29T18:37:13.190-07:00Hello everyone.
A quick question, Dr. Janov.
1st...Hello everyone.<br /><br />A quick question, Dr. Janov. <br />1st paragraph, 6th line: why (do you think) more males and less females?<br /><br />And some food for thought. <br />There is a math graph that applies in many everyday occasions. Details would be tiring, so the idea goes like…<br /><br />…at the beginning of an “event”, the “effect/impact” is greater and after a specific amount of time (which time has to do with the parameters of the examined event) no significant alteration can be made/observed.<br />A quick example is how our body gets fit. At the beginning, push-ups, weights, etc have great effect. But after some time, we go to the gym only to realize that either we have v-e-e-e-r-y slow progress or we just maintain our shape and strength and nothing more. The time needed for the above is relevant only to the “person” itself.<br /><br />I believe the neurotic impact follows the same principle. At the beginning of our own time (being a fetus or few months after birth), everything that happens is VERY IMPORTANT! Then the impact diclines as we grow older.<br /><br />And, amazingly, when a person comes for primal therapy, when the neurotic lid is finally open, the pain just pours out, so violently (at the beginning), that we may outreach the primal zone and dive into deep pain, where little integration is possible. This could go on for a certain amount of time. <br />And then we may need weeks, perhaps months, to observe again a really deep feeling and a redemptory reliving.<br /><br />- Yannis - <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01865086078814230211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-89007934710198466982015-04-29T13:58:19.987-07:002015-04-29T13:58:19.987-07:00Hello Art, my friend. Just letting you know your ...Hello Art, my friend. Just letting you know your explanation to Jacquie doesn't make sense.<br /><br />But anyway, we all know that men flit around more than women. Most homeless people are men. Most psychopaths are men. Most people in jail are men.<br /><br />From my completely unscientific but real observations, it seems that the male brain is designed to allow for a more explorative and experimental lifestyle... whereas women are genetically locked into a sociable lifestyle even when they are growing in a toxic womb. Yes, women choose to abandon their babies, but not as often as men do. And women cling to their babies when danger is present.... men don't. We can see this pattern in other mammalian species. The male explores and fights while the female stays with her babies.<br /><br />Is it any surprise that men can become so unfeeling and unmoved in times of war while their wives beg them not to go? Men's brains become emotionally detached when they are growing in a toxic womb... they are more likely to become psychopathic. Maybe there is an evolutionary purpose to this weakness in the male brain.<br /><br />There is probably no point in discussing all of this. If there are genetic differences there is little we can do to change them. Better to focus on those psychological aspects that can be changed.<br /><br />Still, I am almost embarrassed to be a male primate. I loathe the stupid male thugs that grunt at me when I ask them a simple, polite question, and I adore the enthusiastic, almost affectionate response I get from females. Males have invented wonderful machines but where would we be without women? Right, Jacquie?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-16496772036331280872015-04-29T12:34:17.190-07:002015-04-29T12:34:17.190-07:00Gary, I'd say the global delusion, understood ...Gary, I'd say the global delusion, understood as the great conviction in falsehood, despite evidence to the contrary, can by now only be explained in a context of a profound (unconscious) will to experience the deepest and most terrifying scenarios possible. I mean when we watch adverts or News on TV we expect (want) to be deluded. No one outside ourselves is forcing us to believe in anything. Same goes when we fall in love: we need to feel loved the way we ought to, back THEN when things went 'wrong', back THERE where the first crossroad made us stumble. That until we admit the most powerful love can only come from 'within'. But really who are we to say something is right or wrong? I believe it's not a matter of judging (the easiest thing to do). All we humans need to is feel the unfelt, in order to stop our neurotic sympathy for delusions. There are those who 'take the bull by the horns', and willingly dig into their own pit of sadness (with a little help from their Primal Friends). They may be unaware of what they are going to face, but the inner and same force out of necessity that put them one day on the run is exactly the same that will help them rebirth from ashes so to speak. And there are the rest who still want to squeeze to the last drop the experience of feeling helpless/hopeless, attached to their possessions as a means for survival. They chose to live the horrific part of the script attached to their transparent iron ball, their vain pride. Sounds Apocalyptic? What's the Apocalypse but the "Revelation" of all hidden (unconscious) truth? Apocalypse Therapy would work fine as an advertising campaign in case primal became too 'chewed'. We're all walking on the edge of a cliff. Despite the giddiness I choose to walk that path alive, as much conscious as I can, not as a walking dead…May Life bless you.Despertaareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902923506638596859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-65400262151301745342015-04-29T09:31:18.107-07:002015-04-29T09:31:18.107-07:00Jacquie: As I explained in a previous blog, he is ...Jacquie: As I explained in a previous blog, he is just more convenient to us. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35824625061765913652015-04-29T05:51:20.710-07:002015-04-29T05:51:20.710-07:00Art: Why do you say "He, and less often she, ...Art: Why do you say "He, and less often she, (flits around and cannot be pinned down.)"? Do you think your description here pertains to men more than women? If so why?? Thanks<br /><br />This piece really speaks to me right now.. Thank you so much. Again. (Don't leave us!). Yours, JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-1586738506329339712015-04-29T05:48:16.448-07:002015-04-29T05:48:16.448-07:00Yes, Lars, I love it: "..and a serious chance...Yes, Lars, I love it: "..and a serious chance on our hurt feelings right now, so we can manage tomorrow.." Beautiful, empathic. JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-20401711606570830292015-04-29T04:51:17.028-07:002015-04-29T04:51:17.028-07:00Yes, great letter Lars. How tragic that almost eve...Yes, great letter Lars. How tragic that almost everyone on the planet is deluding themselves, LYING to themselves, over most everything they do. It´s as if humanity has lived for thousands of years controlled by a vast underworld of puppeteers just beneath the Earths surface controlling their every thought and every action with radiowaves, yet nobody has ever had the slightest idea they are there! And even the people we go to, many of whom have thought deeply over the issue, to find out what is controlling us, cannot see just below the surface. Yet somewhere, the unconscious tries to let us know, but in a highly disguised form; in dreams & nightmares, or in films like Invasion of the Bodysnatchers or The Stepford Wives, and so on. garyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25702896403845239292015-04-29T01:42:39.024-07:002015-04-29T01:42:39.024-07:00Hey Lars, so nice to hear from you again. I cannot...Hey Lars, so nice to hear from you again. I cannot believe you are not American nor English cause your writing is brilliant. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-23316937186292699622015-04-28T15:36:04.735-07:002015-04-28T15:36:04.735-07:00This could be told a thousand times yet we would n...This could be told a thousand times yet we would never have enough of the wisdom it sheds. And our species' story goes on and on, constantly looking for redemption that never comes from the outside of our own domain (faith, hope,...). All theses confusing terms unconsciously borrowed from religious organizations whose aim is certainly already passing the severest and most serious scrutiny. Yet the merry go round is spinning faster than ever ad nauseam -which should be interpreted as a good sign of evoultion: the more psycothics we encounter the nearer the global repressed pain comes to the excruciating point of no return. Because, let's not fool ourselves, the pathology is splashing every single human being in a certain degree. It shows. Those bleeding scars splash blatantly around through our talking. Time for everyone to start considering not just one's Pandora's box but a bigger framework as well. Because one thing is for sure: we humans are, wether we like it or not, onboard the same vessel so to speak. Noone is going anywhere without the rest if us. We all need to take a break (and we're damned well being forced into taking it) and a serious chance on our hurt feelings right now, so we can manage tomorrow that flow every now and then as the therapy turns hopefully into a self-administered treatment, away from social archaic prejudice. <br />Again Thank You so much for your ever powerful insight.Despertareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896761553793062978noreply@blogger.com