tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post2623763574503954901..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On Pain KillersArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-37878397101980655562012-01-04T10:34:28.753-08:002012-01-04T10:34:28.753-08:00A few years ago, I finally let all bloody hell bre...A few years ago, I finally let all bloody hell break loose and screamed and cried, and beat the bed, etc...from all my repressed pain surfacing, and a funny thing happened. My life long chronic debilitating depression went away for the first time in my life. This is proof to me that Primal Therapy works. You cannot talk or read your way out of what you felt your way into!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54835461857760288412010-08-20T17:28:05.416-07:002010-08-20T17:28:05.416-07:00So Arthur Janov is either the biggest con artist i...So Arthur Janov is either the biggest con artist in history, or he is the great unsung hero of mankind. Take your pick, which will it be?<br /><br />Wait a minute, real life isn't made up of extreme polar dilemmas like that. It's made up of lots of constellations of possibilities that include the elements mentioned above as well as countless others not mentioned, all mixed in an unquantifiable way.<br /><br />But for some reason, this is not the forum to shed light on that particular aspect of existence. Here we have no intricacy, no subtlety, no movement or unfolding into new possibilities. Just stark right and wrong. Bold, insolent genius versus massive and hopeless injustice and ignorance. How so, people?<br /><br />WaldenWaldenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764833480863624204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-84432336957189952822010-08-16T15:43:16.071-07:002010-08-16T15:43:16.071-07:00The ignorant critique by Duncanhackett of Art Jano...The ignorant critique by Duncanhackett of Art Janov's so called followers really upset me.Most people here write well, and even if they did not, so what? I'd rather talk with an illiterate who would share his or her feelings with me, than some professor or professionnal who would mask their emotions under a mountain of philosophical or technical jargon, that's for sure!<br /><br />And Art Janov's responsible and convincing take on drugs makes total sense to me, as everything else he writes. After over 35 years of looking into these questions, no one comes close to Janov, Reich, and Lowen, in my opinion. <br /><br />Marcomacor22https://www.blogger.com/profile/00652948318839690382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-42515188942799349232010-08-16T13:14:34.028-07:002010-08-16T13:14:34.028-07:00Hi Art,
thought you might be interested in this:
J...Hi Art,<br />thought you might be interested in this:<br />James A.K. Erskine, et al. I Suppress, Therefore I Smoke Effects of Thought Suppression on Smoking Behavior. Psychological Science July 26, 2010, DOI: 10.1177/0956797610378687 <br />reviewed here: http://www.elements4health.com/blocking-thoughts-of-cigarettes-not-productive-for-smoking-cessation.html and elsewhere.<br />This looks like, potentially, the beginning of a general experimental support for your critique of cognitive therapy.<br /><br />I'm retired in Sydney. Down Under but not out.Grahamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15388550564777869916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-68944461118600196232010-08-16T05:46:59.367-07:002010-08-16T05:46:59.367-07:00I would like to add that it says a lot about what ...I would like to add that it says a lot about what kind of Human being you are.Yannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806913165189012161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-61945013326306824682010-08-16T05:44:22.944-07:002010-08-16T05:44:22.944-07:00Doctor Janov,
the same people who restrict painki...Doctor Janov,<br /><br />the same people who restrict painkiller use for suffering patients don't really mind about legal painkillers (tobacco, alcohol...) even if they are not safe drugs (lungs, liver cancer...).<br />Some people should learn the difference between "I don't agree with you/I don't share your point of view" and "you are wrong"...well thanks Doctor Janov to put up with all of our ludicrous comments... :-)<br /><br />Faithfully yours.Yannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806913165189012161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-31186929732128412832010-08-16T00:57:46.967-07:002010-08-16T00:57:46.967-07:00Hi Duncan. If you want high quality comments I su...Hi Duncan. If you want high quality comments I suggest you read the patients' stories published at www.primaltherapy.com<br />Those people know what they are talking about.<br />I've also read other happy stories scattered about on the net. Not too hard to find if you search for a while. Most of the patient-written stories I have read were about the so-called Primal Therapy in Australia, and most of those stories were warning people to avoid it. The Australian patients often assume that Janov's Primal Therapy is the same thing. An understandable mistake. <br /><br />As for objective arguments, I've yet to read a single argument against real Primal Therapy which does not rely on conjecture as the basis of the argument. Believe me, I've read a lot of arguments against Primal Therapy.<br /><br />The best I've read is the argument that primal therapy provides no scientific evidence. I have never read anything in those arguments about the case of two double-blind studies going unpublished without explanation. Nor have I read about the reasons why the primal center does not do any more of these incredibly expensive studies. <br />The arguments against primal therapy are far more numerous than the counter-arguments. This means nothing. Objectivity means everything.<br /><br />It is quite possible that Arthur Janov is one of the biggest con artists in history. His bold claims, such as, permanent changes in vital signs after one year of therapy, could be totally fabricated, or those claims could be the result of improper science. It is possible....but we need to be objective. <br /><br />The Primal Center needs more money. It's case studies have NOT been disproved.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-64808767305456796692010-08-15T14:50:20.275-07:002010-08-15T14:50:20.275-07:00Hi Trish. Life Before Birth comes out Feb 1. ...Hi Trish. Life Before Birth comes out Feb 1. art janov.Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-39709273936687647202010-08-15T14:49:07.540-07:002010-08-15T14:49:07.540-07:00Duncan They are not illiterate. they are from ma...Duncan They are not illiterate. they are from many countries of the world. It is amazing how many try to speak and write English. More power to them. There are safe drugs. I took them for my pain with no bad secondary effects. People need to kill pain to go on. Where is your mercy? art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-74965927492029307262010-08-13T20:25:31.736-07:002010-08-13T20:25:31.736-07:00Hi Dr Janov, Great post. The world is not ready to...Hi Dr Janov, Great post. The world is not ready to deal with the reality of your work. What a tragedy. You like other great innovators throughout history, have felt the pain of being ignored, when bringing a message which people do not want to hear. However, your work has not been in vain. The tens of thousands of us whose lives are now tolerable are eternally grateful. Most warmly, Trish Hodges AustraliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-5570050607512903912010-08-13T19:37:58.555-07:002010-08-13T19:37:58.555-07:00Arthur, you are wrong. Hospitals restrict the use ...Arthur, you are wrong. Hospitals restrict the use of heavy painkillers not because of the "possibility of abuse", although it is a factor, but mainly because they are dangerous in any dose. Read the literature. They are not safe drugs, simple as that. The advice to "sue the hospital" is plainly ridiculous, like so much of the comment on this blog. Your followers do not seem to able to spell, construct sentences properly, or argue rationally. What this says about your therapy I leave for others to judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-38328779233238708362010-08-12T10:56:36.459-07:002010-08-12T10:56:36.459-07:00Barry: unless it is very debilitating our therap...Barry: unless it is very debilitating our therapy can be done, but carefully. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-86675393784538647952010-08-12T00:28:41.433-07:002010-08-12T00:28:41.433-07:00Yesterday I was seing a tv debate in the french ch...Yesterday I was seing a tv debate in the french channel TV5 about a book written by a Philosopher<br />who criticise freud and the psycological science in general. The philosopher was very smart and his reasoning debastating and similar to Arthur Janov formulation.In the end everybody agree with the philosopher. Then the tv presenter ask the philosopher what is the alternative to psycological therapy and he could no find any sound answer.So it seems to me that society is realising that today psycology science is not working. Only needs to go a bit far to find the primal therapy.chyronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15298428106587062871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-6392677459664181162010-08-11T16:02:59.888-07:002010-08-11T16:02:59.888-07:00Art, I'm sorry to know your back has pain. As...Art, I'm sorry to know your back has pain. As you are probably aware mine has been out of wack for four years now and were it not for pain medication I shutter to think of the alternitives. Question: If one..now that you have personal experience with the back pain deliema...what are your thoughts on ones ability to Primal or do Primal Therapy with various pain medications flowing through ones blood=stream and there effect on the CNS and ones ability to experience historical pain? Devoted to the End, Barry.Monumenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03483886544067282194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-44419979917890400702010-08-10T19:16:56.261-07:002010-08-10T19:16:56.261-07:00With regards to Pain Killers:
There are a certain...With regards to Pain Killers:<br /> There are a certain type of pain killers that I was given after a Hernia operation. It had an Opiate base to it and it really weirded me out...it scared me as to how I felt on it. I quit taking it after only a couple of pills. All Dr. prescribed...but I noticed that regular Tylenol caplets did a good job of easing "after surgery pains"...plus I was able to "Feel" alot of the pain later on and got clear of the discomfort in doing so. ( I'm a former Primal Therapy Patient )<br /> In my view, for a Dr. to issue a certain type of a pain killer in these circumstances is being Humane, on his or hers part...Ok?<br /> The incident of addiction to many of today's painkillers can really be scary....but only a few pills says "I'm still human".... in these types of situations.....then stop taking them when no longer needed.<br /> I think it was Dr. Janov who many years ago pointed out how The United States' population is one very heavily drug dependant people.... in a publication he had written.JerrysGoogleBloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13775499569635106502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-37150103781950293902010-08-10T14:40:17.153-07:002010-08-10T14:40:17.153-07:00Art, you could sue the hospital for failing to war...Art, you could sue the hospital for failing to warn you of the unavailable pain killers and the unexpected pain you experienced.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.com