tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post2547450047850737374..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On Connection (Part 6/6)Arthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-24884148582092812112009-09-17T18:09:45.996-07:002009-09-17T18:09:45.996-07:00Dear Dr. Janov,
I wish you much success.
I am al...Dear Dr. Janov, <br />I wish you much success. <br />I am also in contact with many formal institutionalized children from Germany (adults today) who live in the USA. Maybe I have a chance too, to primal the leftovers I still care with me, - night fear and phobia.<br /><br />I know for sure, the German government is reading my Websites and your article (I have a Webalizer Statistic on both websites). Your name and PT should be known, because I mention PT in almost all articles since 2002. <br />I appreciate your effort. <br />SieglindeS. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-19492464119901068922009-09-17T12:51:27.189-07:002009-09-17T12:51:27.189-07:00Sieglinde: thanks I will get on it. We already di...Sieglinde: thanks I will get on it. We already did treat two abused children from Germany, paid for by the German Government. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-5929301458263403132009-09-17T07:34:42.198-07:002009-09-17T07:34:42.198-07:00Sieglinde.
A very interesting question for the who...Sieglinde.<br />A very interesting question for the whole of Europe… I know that… what you mention is true even here in Sweden ... even if we pulled ourselves from the war... I am very interested in your contact with the German authorities... which I suppose could be helpful here in Sweden also... I guess if your country accepts primal therapy as a method… I think that it would facilitate for introduction in Sweden also. I look forward to a contact with you on this issue.<br />Sincerely<br />Frank Larsson<br />e-mail larsson.frank@comhem.seFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-68710076311533807682009-09-16T18:31:25.010-07:002009-09-16T18:31:25.010-07:00Dear Janov,
I appreciate your empathy.
May I take...Dear Janov,<br />I appreciate your empathy. <br />May I take you up on your offer and provide you with more insight.<br />A round table was formed by the German Government last year in November, to address the abuse and human rights violation on all the institutionalized. Dr. Antje Vollmer is the chairperson of the round table. <br /><br />As you can imagine many counterparts, the one who would like to see this shameful subject disappear and others acting out believing these traumatized people don’t deserve anything, are heavily at work with political manipulation. <br /><br />I know your offer, to provide help, can only be beneficial for victims. For this reason I would ask you to address DR. Vollmer directly:<br />Frau<br />Dr. Antje Vollmer<br />Vorsitzende Runder Tisch Heimerziehung<br />Deutscher Bundestag<br />Platz der Republik 1<br />11011 Berlin<br />Germany <br />If you need more details, or have any questions on the subject, I’m glad to provide them by phone or via email.<br />Thank you,<br />Sieglinde<br />admin@aaacworld.org <br /> <br />P.S. Please don’t stop writing. The world need to hear what you have to say.S. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25372216256818870992009-09-16T13:10:52.623-07:002009-09-16T13:10:52.623-07:00Richard: I am writing so much with hundreds of pag...Richard: I am writing so much with hundreds of pages next to my desk, I am lost. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-78404211282812967442009-09-16T13:09:44.928-07:002009-09-16T13:09:44.928-07:00Sieglinde. Sounds like you are doing wonderful wo...Sieglinde. Sounds like you are doing wonderful work. Perhaps we can make a deal with the German government to do something since I think our therapy is no doubt the most effective in these cases. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-6057147827027268162009-09-15T20:23:34.918-07:002009-09-15T20:23:34.918-07:00Art, you can't find that study can you? :)Art, you can't find that study can you? :)Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-38838491652015891522009-09-15T20:22:37.052-07:002009-09-15T20:22:37.052-07:00Frank, I guess all the psychotherapists out there ...Frank, I guess all the psychotherapists out there fail to understand for the same reason why most laymen fail. Repression kills the emotional desire to find a better way, and hinders the mind's natural ability to smell bullshit...especially when we have the neurotic need to believe that everything is just fine.<br />Therapists talk about finding a better way because that's all part of the job. It's just a game to them.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-83227743521364531712009-09-15T19:50:18.329-07:002009-09-15T19:50:18.329-07:00Dear Dr Janov,
Thank you for your answer.
Answeri...Dear Dr Janov,<br />Thank you for your answer.<br /><br />Answering your question in short:<br />In 1994 I founded the organization “Adults Abused as Children Worldwide” to encourage childhood victims to speak up and seek therapy (primal therapy if possible). <br /><br />In 2002 I extended the Website in German language under “Erwachsene Misshandelt als Kinder” with the same focus.<br /><br />Primarily we addressed the German Government in 2003 to erase the stigma of approx 600 000 severely abused innocent children in institutions between 1950 – 1980, and to start an investigation with the focus on human rights violation. <br />Exactly this is happening right now. We “EMaK”, short for “Erwachsene Misshandelt als Kinder” provides the government with stories victims of childhood abuse sent to us. Our aim is that the government pays for therapy outside the usual cognitive therapy, besides a financial compensation. <br />In addition we invited two Professors to speak on the subject “long term consequences of child abuse”: Prof. Kellner on “cortisol” http://www.aaacworld.org/info/low%20cortisol%20by%20PTSD%20research.pdf<br />and Prof Elbert will present its findings on brain damage http://www.aaacworld.org/info/Ms_CD_KolassaElbert.htm <br />We also contact physicians and encourage cortisol testing, and ask health insurance companies to pay for these tests. <br /><br />Now, historians are documenting the social effects of the post war violent era. <br /> <br />Too many, (approx. 200 000) newborns were dumped in orphanages after 1945 in Germany who still live with the hospice symptom and consequently with other trauma. Other children ended in institutions because they were nuisance, - unwonted children. They experienced psychological und sexual abuse, neglect and were used as child slave laborers. Many of them were heavily medicated to make the more submissive. <br />Post war Germany produced a whole generation of traumatized and physically ill people. <br /><br />In the 16 years of my work over 5000 victims of childhood abuse contacted me who have no financial means to pay for therapy, because their lives are in shambles, - of course they all live with an array of disabling trauma.<br />All of them need “real” help. This was the reason I was asking you in an earlier posting for primal therapists in Germany. <br />Sieglinde<br />admin@aaacworld.orgS. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-3546773215953055222009-09-15T13:01:53.741-07:002009-09-15T13:01:53.741-07:00Sieglinde:
Tell me again what you do.
Yes of cours...Sieglinde:<br />Tell me again what you do.<br />Yes of course there are parasympathetic traumas with parasympath reactions but most deviations are toward the sympathetic. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-14730525409675235372009-09-14T13:07:02.260-07:002009-09-14T13:07:02.260-07:00Art
What is it that we don’t understand? Where ar...Art<br /><br />What is it that we don’t understand? Where are all those who oppose what primal therapy so clearly demonstrated? It can’t get much clearer than this... how is it possible to remain mute and inactive in the face of something as obvious... without the slightest comment? There is something exceptionally serious that invokes primal therapy! Is it hard to understand? Frightened maybe? I want to know... I am curious about why people involved in other forms of therapy don’t speak up?<br /><br />Could it be that the equation doesn’t add up because of lack of understanding… with consequences for millions of people who suffer in silence… victims of their own inability to understand that there is help… living their lives ashamed of their 'handicap' while the 'expert ice' talk about right or wrong… alcoholics… drug addicts… not to mention idealists… all with the same need but with all of their focus on their ideology having the same effect as psychotropic drugs… all of whom… with all certainty… would be helped by primal therapy which isn’t even allowed to prove it s effectiveness.<br /><br />I can’t see any other reason for this except that all other forms of therapy end up on the side of the accused and thus it s pushed aside with severe consequences for the needing. I have also witnessed how in public, primal therapy has been pictured as being a sect of some kind, also without being allowed to counter those arguments. Can it be that those feeling they are getting accused do everything in their power to silence new knowledge which might counter their own? I think history proves me right in saying that. Those most geniuses were harassed and threatened to their lives if they didn’t withdraw their knowledge<br /><br />Arthur… you are one amongst these people… your proof might be debated and acknowledged only after your passing... as the old establishment in psychology itself will die.<br /><br />Sincerely<br />Frank LarssonFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-23976932570597568292009-09-13T22:17:50.684-07:002009-09-13T22:17:50.684-07:00What study are you referring to? art janovWhat study are you referring to? art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-76219083540838020842009-09-13T17:47:28.657-07:002009-09-13T17:47:28.657-07:00Dear Dr. Janov,
I am always fascinated by the clar...Dear Dr. Janov,<br />I am always fascinated by the clarity in your writing. <br /><br />You say: “Once memory is stored as an imprint it is always an imminent danger.” Hence nearly all of our starting patients are high in cortisol.”<br /><br />Question: What about people with early childhood and birth trauma who have low cortisol (fluctuating between 1.1 – 6.8)? The pituitary gland is normal, no tumor or other visible (MRI) impairing damage. <br /><br />Thank you<br />SieglindeS. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-63739412356509056132009-09-13T16:22:22.844-07:002009-09-13T16:22:22.844-07:00"Because brainstem and limbic structures on t..."Because brainstem and limbic structures on the right largely make up the unconscious the task is to bring the right brain into symmetry with the left. Remember, events are unconscious because early trauma impacts the right brain far more than the left, and that brain loses touch with conscious-awareness."<br /><br />It sounds to me like you are saying the left brain is the conscious mind, and the right is the unconscious, and so the only way the right brain feelings can reach consciousness is by reaching the left.<br />I'm not sure about that. Consciousness cannot be understood or located specifically, but it just 'happens' when certain parts of the brain light up. When the neocortex becomes less active it does not mean the patient has become less conscious. It means the patient has become less interactive with his surroundings, and has become more of a passenger and less of a driver in his conscious experience.<br />I am probably getting into semantics.<br /><br />Art, would you be willing to publish your two-year follow-up study in this blog or somewhere on the net?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.com