tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post2345343494377288246..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On Connection (Part 4/6)Arthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-85342682560253889482009-09-03T16:32:23.083-07:002009-09-03T16:32:23.083-07:00Dr. Lyman, last night I recieved a letter from a P...Dr. Lyman, last night I recieved a letter from a Primal Therapist in Melbourne, Australia. He says I am projecting on to you and my question to you was "a bit below the belt huh?". I just want to make it clear that my intentions were not below the belt. I was not sure whether you believe or support Janov's therapy which is obviously different to other primal therapies, or if you believe there is such thing as 'mock' primal therapy or just 'mock' therapy. I asked this question because I wanted to counter your positive attitude towards everybody dabbling and experimenting in the field of psychotherapy. When I say 'mock' I am referring to Janov's description - not mine. I suppose I could've worded the question better. I have absolutely no ill feelings towards you (I don't even know you).<br />The Melbourne therapist also says I have projected onto Dr. Janov and put him on a pedestal. I have not. I have his THEORY on a pedestal because it's the only one that makes sense to me. I call him "Art" because that's what I would call him face to face. I don't blindly worship him or blindly dismiss you or the Melbourne therapist or anyone. But I have concluded that I will do Janov's therapy rather than a 'mock' therapy. I think mock is likely to be a fair word for many therapies. From my experience, Cognitive is mock. Maybe I will decide that Janov's therapy is mock. I seriously doubt it - because my dreams and limited feelings tell me otherwise.<br /><br />If my question to you seemed rude or manipulative, please reconsider it in a different light. I think this blog can benefit from more professional input and debate.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-23871815686130527282009-09-01T15:47:35.804-07:002009-09-01T15:47:35.804-07:00Dr. Lyman, what are your views on 'mock' p...Dr. Lyman, what are your views on 'mock' primal therapy?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-91630406637731751012009-08-31T15:40:52.844-07:002009-08-31T15:40:52.844-07:00You make a good point, Frank, in a world that valu...You make a good point, Frank, in a world that values evidence-based practice, and yet there's more to the story.<br /><br />it's not as easy as it might seem to get the kind of rigorous research done on a model of therapy. First, it's a catch 22 when you need the resources of a university (large clinics with trained clinicians or students, methods wizards, statisticians, and funding) but the funding sources, like tax payers prefer the most traditional methods of therapy. <br /><br />Second, I work for the Santa Barbara Graduate Institute, PhD/MA degrees in prenatal and perinatal (birth) psychology that incorporates the primal literatures in the curriculum. The school has been in existence 10 years but prior to the start, the president went to any number of universities with this cutting edge work, and they all said, "No thank you." But little by little the school is gaining traction, but a long way yet from being able to do a large scale-random assigned study. That's a glimpse of how it is.<br /><br />But there's more. In all of psychology there is currently a reevaluation of how to serve clients better. I was at the American Psychological Association annual meeting in 2007 and the leaders were very interested in finding something that worked the best, a unified model of psychotherapy they called it. And yet they were a long way from bringing the stakeholders together on that idea.<br /><br />What is fabulous about the current state of psychology in my view is that there is room for all number of individuals to say, "Wait, I think I know what might improve things here." For me, Art Janov and his life's work falls in that category. Not yet the theory taught in every university? Well, okay, but I took the risk to go to Primal Therapy in the early 70s and now I'm in my sixties and have had a real life vs. the one I would have had. In short, it's still a work in progress, that's okay. I count myself lucky to have been part of it to this point. B.J. Lyman, Santa Barbara, CADr. B.J. Lymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05827015290318068199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-58824727039970769042009-08-31T11:53:40.608-07:002009-08-31T11:53:40.608-07:00To all of you
We're talking therapy her... no ...To all of you<br />We're talking therapy her... no harm in it... I listen and will do… I know that our personal problems are crucial to how we live our life... so again… it’s a question of life and dead… I know that Janovs blog leads to a more general awareness of what primal therapy is and can do... I see another perhaps equally important task for this blog... we need more... not to mention a countless number of primal therapists all over the world... who bring with them the knowledge Janov presents... we must spread through contact with established institutions as work with psychology welfare in society ... a greater distribution to the public as this blog represents a great opportunity to? ... Ideas can be presented here on the blog? None are better than other... we just let Janov determine what might be a good idea or not... you who not dare to stand up for your sense of what primal therapy is… what do you got to lose? You… as might established in the field of psychology ... there are many who look forward to your participation... why not let Janov legitimize you for such a safe establishment as possible... it cannot be easy to stand alone with a patient without all the knowledge available today... Janov shows and claims that the awareness of primal therapy is safe today... we can leave it there... we need an institution that links to a research which proved and show results... it is difficult to assimilate to such a clear and unambiguous text… that Janov books reports don’t exhibit a different reaction in such an otherwise… total intellectually dominant world.<br />Sincerely<br />Frank LarssonFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.com