tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post8484545115590347882..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On Hypnosis (Part 24/26)Arthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-91408520152341384892011-09-14T10:47:10.268-07:002011-09-14T10:47:10.268-07:00Emanuel: You need not worry about that. It doesn&...Emanuel: You need not worry about that. It doesn't matter. It helps not to be too intellectual but other than that.......AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-45637044854409196562011-09-14T06:34:43.461-07:002011-09-14T06:34:43.461-07:00Hi Art , is there something like "counter-sug...Hi Art , is there something like "counter-suggestibility " resp. would u n b e l i e f ...(after all that reading in all those Years) about the efficacy of P.T. in m y case ...would prevent a successful P.T?!<br />My mother once named my the "unbelieving Thomas "<br />You that guy with Jesus... who did n o t believe...<br />Jokes aside :prevents any scepticim a good outcome in P.S Yours truly! emanuelemanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380331335118885426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-75162130716080234602011-09-14T02:13:52.983-07:002011-09-14T02:13:52.983-07:00A facebook comment: "I have done self primall...A facebook comment: <i>"I have done self primalling for 15 years now, day in and day out. Nobody has been there to give me any suggestions and it still works. The first two sentences here made me laugh. Thanks Art, for the laughs!" </i>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-76994105119648894932011-09-14T02:06:17.280-07:002011-09-14T02:06:17.280-07:00Richard: now open your eyes and all is forgotten. ...Richard: now open your eyes and all is forgotten. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-41623466756316472162011-09-12T17:50:34.934-07:002011-09-12T17:50:34.934-07:00art, you are feeling sleepy. your eyelids are get...art, you are feeling sleepy. your eyelids are getting very heavy. you will answer the following question without any fear of putting suggestions in my head...<br /><br />when i am at the primal center, am i likely to adversely interfere with highly suggestible patients?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-43890173893865018752011-09-12T14:38:17.302-07:002011-09-12T14:38:17.302-07:00Hi,
well I hope this isn't too personal to be...Hi,<br /><br />well I hope this isn't too personal to be published:<br /><br /> -"Sometimes the neurosis tries to take the lead because it resists the move towards Pain. At this point the therapist intervenes in the role of the agent supporting the expression of Pain. The therapist may see ahead of time where the patient is headed, but, unless a helping hand is clearly needed, he lets the patient arrive there in his own time. Although the "lead" keeps changing hands, the direction is determined by the patient's history and physiologically-imprinted experiences. Healing is not a question of the therapist trying to influence or "change" the patient. Healing does not emanate from outside. It develops from the inside, like all healing processes, from a cut to a burn"-.<br /><br />My bodywork therapist could have written this for me at the beginning so that I understood what he understood about the process (and therefore what he was trying to allow me to do for myself in relationship with him).<br /><br />I liked him not only because of his genuine, warm and engaging self but I also liked his personality.<br /><br />After a long time I found that my personality could engage his personality in conversations about this very, very process and in the end we argued about the details of the theory. . . but we never touched on the impact on me. This took me a very long time to understand.<br /><br />I really liked this guy, he IS a good man. There are a few of us out there. Anyway, it all fell apart when I found out about Real Primal Therapy. Then I realised why the nice drawings on the wall on my therapists' new therapy room (in a new posher and richer part of town) were better and more expensive and the nice couch and the nice Victorian drawing room all this was happening in was totally inappropriate for me. <br /><br />(I was also breaking down as a consequence of his excellence in this particular quoted field of "intra-personal excellence").<br /><br />I finally realised that I am enthralled by intellectuals who can feel. I love intellectuals who can feel but they are very dangerous for me because they have always made me (and my particular instinctual type) into "Lady Chatterlys' Lover" or the "Working Class Hero", or the 'Puer Eternous' (or the progressing patient).<br /><br />It is the intellectuals who seduce us into yet another 'cultural narcisism' and I could not go to that nice drawing room any more.<br /><br />It's a shame this guy couldn't get some advice from Art Janov by reading this blog and seeing that his practice is only taking some people so far and then leaving them with an impossible decision to make about how to proceed.<br /><br />In the end I realised his particular personality was controlling me. He "Knew" my pain. . . but he did not understand it. . . and that is why he can carry on practising with great skill but not actually be equipped to take his "Clients" where Primal needs to go.<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.com