tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post7749698508515016265..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: An Examination of Psychoanalysis (Part 1/13)Arthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-76295092794353589922011-09-28T00:46:09.608-07:002011-09-28T00:46:09.608-07:00Grumpy: He stayed super religious for the rest of ...Grumpy: He stayed super religious for the rest of his life, and gave most of his money to televangelists. All because he primalled alone and got to terrible feelings that overwhelmed him. I tried my best but he wouldn't allow me to help. I loved him. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-33558204822734690072011-09-26T12:20:10.257-07:002011-09-26T12:20:10.257-07:00Art: thanks for the movie recommendation; btw, i r...Art: thanks for the movie recommendation; btw, i read Michael Holden veered off into that (speaking in tongues, etc) after he left the primal fold, but i don't know if he stayed with it for the rest of his life.grumpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07620337750803837746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-17901090441063139202011-09-25T12:54:17.834-07:002011-09-25T12:54:17.834-07:00Dr. Janov,
"It was never just intelligence. ...Dr. Janov,<br /><br />"It was never just intelligence. It was primal pain."<br />This is the answer to why Universities can never teach PT and Therapists will not come to the primal Center to study.<br />It's the pain they would have to feel first.<br /><br />Thank you for your integrity,<br />SieglindeS. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25137936941171959012011-09-25T11:39:38.954-07:002011-09-25T11:39:38.954-07:00Sieglinde: It was never just intelligence. It was...Sieglinde: It was never just intelligence. It was primal pain. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-45301746197020337962011-09-25T05:00:05.370-07:002011-09-25T05:00:05.370-07:00Dr. Janov,
Frank wrote:
“Anyone who witnesses so...Dr. Janov,<br /><br />Frank wrote:<br /><br />“Anyone who witnesses something that you did ... must have something much more than just the thinking process as "tools"”.<br /><br />He is right. Would you tell us Dr. Janov how was it possible that you were able to see (feel) so deeply, how you understood the connection and the process, and how we can heal from wounds hidden so deep. <br />I’m puzzled by this question, since I read Primal Scream. It cannot be explained only by intelligence.<br /><br />Freud detoured and progressed to a point. What would you say held him back from going further? – finding the primal code. <br /><br />Is it the same reason why so many psychiatrists progress and practice only what they have learned? <br /><br />Thanks,<br />Sieglinde<br />-----------------<br />Frank,<br /><br />thanks. I share your view. <br /><br />SieglindeS. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-22873445753697209442011-09-23T12:00:45.136-07:002011-09-23T12:00:45.136-07:00Grumpy: Go see Rachel Rachel with the wife of Paul...Grumpy: Go see Rachel Rachel with the wife of Paul Newman. It is about the Holy Rollers and it is pure abreaction and does help them......scream and yell and roil around.But no connection. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-44098274855129409072011-09-23T07:25:00.475-07:002011-09-23T07:25:00.475-07:00Andrew brings up an interesting point; i once went...Andrew brings up an interesting point; i once went to a Pentecostal church meeting, and it reminded me of a primal group; people rolling around on the floor, screaming, writhing; in religious agony and/or ecstasy; i didn't join in, but i was impressed.grumpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07620337750803837746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-40098936302181262002011-09-23T00:07:04.980-07:002011-09-23T00:07:04.980-07:00Hey Victoria. that's what I'm here for. ...Hey Victoria. that's what I'm here for. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-20126884336172460422011-09-22T06:39:01.543-07:002011-09-22T06:39:01.543-07:00Ah, psychoanalysis! Nothing more uncomfortable-mak...Ah, psychoanalysis! Nothing more uncomfortable-making, of being kept off balance, and so just plain horrible for the one in the chair, or so was my experience. I fell upon Part 1. I enjoyed Hypnosis and this too is going be fascinating! I could not have wished for a topic I am more interested in right now. I feel as though at last I will leave that blasted chair and instead start understanding. VictoriaVictoria Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13389283150005854351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-62730759624387076752011-09-21T17:41:57.076-07:002011-09-21T17:41:57.076-07:00Frank: I think the primal process has probably bee...Frank: I think the primal process has probably been discovered many times before, and many times before Art. Art is just the first person to follow through with the discovery.<br /><br />I believe I discovered the Primal myself when I was 17 years old. I actually tried to forget about it at the time because the event scared me because I did not understand it.Andrew D Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04492591375757227409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-51586920030550104242011-09-21T01:02:22.833-07:002011-09-21T01:02:22.833-07:00Art,
If Freud ever could have... had the slightest...Art,<br />If Freud ever could have... had the slightest idea what Primal Therapy was about ... then he would also taken a lot of steps to implement it?<br /><br />Art... I think... what you did ... at that moment with your patient... when you perceived his reaktion ... when you discovered Primal Therapy... is and would have been an issue about attentiveness and nothing else… and Freud didn’t have that.<br /><br /><br />From a reaction of an patient… grasp what ... of what you witnessed ... one must have something more than just an perception of an analysis ... analysis is a complete thought engineered process and it would be and is not enough to discover the primal therapy process. It would in that part of analysis just be scary... if not... Freud would have done what you did.<br /><br />Analysis has never been something where they totally trust the patient's own process and it is critical. Anyone who witnesses something that you did ... must have something much more than just the thinking process as "tools".<br /><br />You did something... something much more beyond what anyone in the psychological field has ever done.<br /><br />Aida sends her gratitude for what Primal Therapy has meant to her.<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.com