tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post6875764277945614152..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On Talking FastArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-75570778894260256842017-02-09T16:41:49.685-08:002017-02-09T16:41:49.685-08:00Yes, Paul. People can lie to you and then to them...Yes, Paul. People can lie to you and then to themselves, and it becomes one more cognitive exercise to get their way with no knowledge of what is driving it-- their lower-brained, long-ago forgotten needs.Sherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600090931780217359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-56933143979774936642017-02-07T12:35:06.774-08:002017-02-07T12:35:06.774-08:00Piotr,
people confuse the words with the actions....Piotr,<br /><br />people confuse the words with the actions. They can dismiss you with 'kind words' and expect your actions to meet up with their expectations. An expression I have heard: "It's the thought that counts". . . No it isn't ! Then they may even tell you actions speak louder than words (as long as it's your actions and not theirs). People are capricious, contradictory and don't understand their own motives; most of all when they feel the need to get out of an 'obligation'. <br /><br />People want to 'get out' of many things as an act out for the original need to 'get out'.<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-52372005524237031202017-02-07T12:08:41.463-08:002017-02-07T12:08:41.463-08:00Don't always believe what you hear. ArtDon't always believe what you hear. ArtArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-32776415084803732802017-02-07T01:21:21.618-08:002017-02-07T01:21:21.618-08:00Hi Art
At least you have courage to name it all. ...Hi Art<br /><br />At least you have courage to name it all. For me it is still difficult, I've heard that I am loved and at the same time I was beaten. Barefaced lies. Katarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911400318077957562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-47609318687995790982017-02-06T12:41:38.839-08:002017-02-06T12:41:38.839-08:00RE: traumatic childhoods:
The problems of traumat...RE: traumatic childhoods:<br /><br />The problems of traumatic childhoods are infinitely complex.<br /><br />And simplifying them, usually results in misunderstandings, because every case, has to be evaluated on it's own factors.<br /><br />With that risk in mind, I will say this:<br /><br />Basically there is always or often a win/lose option/ condition.<br /><br />It depends on the severity of the trauma, the pressure, if the trauma is overwhelming not, or to what degree the overwhelm is.<br /><br />Sufficient overwhelm will break a child's will, beyond the breaking point, the point where a child cannot recover, or rebound, where the child cannot psychologically "get up and dust himself off and get on with life" point. This is where the adrenal glands are damaged and made dysfunctional. The fight hormones are not produced any more. <br /><br /><br />Place this subject on a scale of zero to one hundred. With zero "0" as death, and 100 as a perfect undamaged child. The child is born with "100" potential, which is close to unlimited.<br /><br />But the problems (traumas) of life, from before conception through conception through gestation, birth and so on, knock the child down the scale, accordingly. The more trauma, the more abuse, the more the severity the abuse of every conceivable kind, beatings, abandonment, rejection, invalidation and being taught false and limiting life knowledge, correspondingly/respectfully knock the child down the scale, notch by notch over time. There is a point which is specific to each child, beyond which he will not recover or fully recover. Or be proportionately physically disabled or and mentally disabled. It is all matter of type of abuse and degree of abuse by commission or omission. A child can take a considerable amount of abuse and still do ok in life, even in spite of the damage and scars, but only to a point.<br /><br />And most people have some damage and scars.<br /><br />Often people can exploit or capitalize on their disabilities (scars) and use them to their advantage, if they are not past the breaking point, where their will is damaged beyond the point of no recovery.<br /><br />The people who have been broken beyond the point of no recovery, are the ones on welfare permanently or ‘wanderers” or on disability pensions. The homeless are the extreme examples.<br /><br /><br />Due to the innate ability of ambition of a child and an innate desire to survive and thrive of every "being", everyone does the best they could with what they have. There is no exception.<br /><br />Do not judge a person, unless you have walked two moons in his moccasins. You do not know what kind of "cross" (burden) he is bearing.<br /><br />End of part one. <br /><br />Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08244698465989773529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-81270911240872553782017-02-06T00:23:21.981-08:002017-02-06T00:23:21.981-08:00Part two!
All this is the reason why I never coul...Part two!<br /><br />All this is the reason why I never could learn/teach my self anything and still struggeling with!<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-17190992007924052522017-02-06T00:12:52.111-08:002017-02-06T00:12:52.111-08:00I can guess that the difference in your upbringing...I can guess that the difference in your upbringing and my have marginal differences... it to make sentences of something impossible as experience is a solitude to yourself... but I mean physiological differences!<br /><br />It has not just been a matter of talking to fast for me! I think I my self also was/are lost in what I had/have to say when I spoke/speak too fast. First of all there is a threat of listening to myself... it's as if I'm scared of myself... to understand what it is I am saying... and what the answer will be by feeling the threat from whom I am trying to make my self heard. So has all become a threat to me... and so I am lost in my hell of fear. And so I have become scared and shy for all in my life... if not my anger or hatred made a difference of my situation. <br /><br />I could not ever look my father in his eyes! So my dearest Art now you know the impossible in my life... all I have left is to feel my loneliness and my need full of fear. <br /><br />I can understand why God has become a refuge! To have illusions made a difference enough! <br /><br />One would wish that there were a technology that made possible to transfer the full horror experiences that have taken place in reality... it for a psychiatrist to experience so he would know what he has to do.<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-38679765674419629062017-02-05T22:23:24.451-08:002017-02-05T22:23:24.451-08:00Courage my friend. It will get better as you unde...Courage my friend. It will get better as you understand more and more. ArtArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-55262798049789637702017-02-05T22:22:25.204-08:002017-02-05T22:22:25.204-08:00Thanks for the compassion. ArtThanks for the compassion. ArtArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-71737086342448208752017-02-05T17:05:29.105-08:002017-02-05T17:05:29.105-08:00That hurt is intense; severe. Just not right that...That hurt is intense; severe. Just not right that parents would treat their child like that. You turned out so well in spite of your parents (who were a tremendous handicap for you growing up). Just not right; the "treatment" from your father and your mother not even being a mother. You possess great strength; even growing up, you sure knew what was going on. You did the best you could at all times,that is what I think, considering the circumstances/situations that your parents "dished" out to you. beachcoast7https://www.blogger.com/profile/17348238170525257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-62178596305128065062017-02-05T16:10:27.365-08:002017-02-05T16:10:27.365-08:00Talking about talking, lately I've been lost f...Talking about talking, lately I've been lost for words.And that feeling that I've got nothing good enough to say is still here. I didn't realise it was a feeling until now. I realise now I've been struggling with that feeling for as long as I've been reading your blogs, over two years now.Wow that's a long time to ignore a significant feeling isn't it. <br /><br /> I get so much out of reading all your stories and reflections. But maybe not as much as if I had my feelings about it too! Anyway I still get so much from reading it! I'm just sick of trying to be smart when I feel stupid and lost for words. Thanks for helping !<br /><br />Katherina Katherinaninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16332073848086460414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-9246368196526631042017-02-05T14:12:59.036-08:002017-02-05T14:12:59.036-08:00Hi Art,
did that make you into their 'caretak...Hi Art,<br /><br />did that make you into their 'caretaker'?<br /><br />I often felt like an orphan with parents when at boarding school; and at times at home too.<br /><br />I became my mother's caretaker, to an extent. . . She was always ill with something, so was I. I internalised guilt for my mothers unavailability. My Mum used to hide behind the housework, then watch daytime TV. She was also like a child, maybe a bit older - 11 perhaps.<br /><br />I reckon I got stuck at ten, 18months into boarding school I clamped down emotionally. That was it. . . Since my breakdown in 2010 I cried a river of tears as a boarding school child.<br /><br />Now I know what 'Childhood Melange' means for me. A title in the Legacy I will be very interested in studying when I buy it.<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.com