tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post4902316184389393269..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: To My Colleagues and Shrinks EverywhereArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-75409672338257246112015-11-06T23:54:42.282-08:002015-11-06T23:54:42.282-08:00Hey you are sharp. And yes Ressler has made amazin...Hey you are sharp. And yes Ressler has made amazing discoveries, and me too. Thanks for the letter. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-40291744003805931232015-11-06T06:14:36.417-08:002015-11-06T06:14:36.417-08:00Hello Art,
I just love reading your current artic...Hello Art,<br /><br />I just love reading your current articles. I say let it all rip Art. I for one need you to download everything that's on your mind, in the time that you have left with us on this mad planet. I'm so glad you're here translating and guiding me to the right stuff. Thank you.... It all makes sense now, Epigenetics is the link I've been trying to find myself, to make sense of what I've observed. I don't think the brain is the only 'plastic' part of our beings either. If we turn the coin on Epigenetics and look at it's other side, the part where evolution is happening in real time. We are inheriting our parents experiences and responses to them - good and bad. Adaptive and maladaptive. I also watched the Ressler talk on you tube that you gave a link for recently. There is just no disputing that this new area of research will revolutionize almost everything eventually. I've always thought that it doesn't make sense that 'Random" mutations occur then natural selection favours them. The organism just has always seemed way smarter than that to me. I've always hoped that science would discover the mechanism that codes for our responses to the environment and surely now it has. What do you think then, of the fact that the female contains all the eggs she will ever ovulate whilst she is in her Mother's womb? Not only that but she was an ovum in her mother's ovaries when her Mother was a fetus in the Grandmother's uterus. So each of us has been imprinted heavily by both generation's inutero, birth and early attachments or lack thereof. JulietteJuliettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05073454399875414869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-71000917793642109472015-10-16T10:23:50.631-07:002015-10-16T10:23:50.631-07:00Hi Sheri, for me the guy was just the preparation ...Hi Sheri, for me the guy was just the preparation for what he did with (or should i say to) the last girl. i understood it like a therapy demonstration. it really takes some lack of sensitivity to to do it.<br />which only adds to argument that human health is often not what we see on surface> what we say (and that it includes me), how we look, age we reach or even the epigenetic signature we measure. for that last one probably some answers will be published tomorrow. vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-72951924219313443612015-10-16T08:17:06.366-07:002015-10-16T08:17:06.366-07:00David, You are so right, but you know I am only on...David, You are so right, but you know I am only one person and I write and write so it never happens. Some of it is getting done with my great editor Agustin Gurza. art<br />Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-91850230921921534872015-10-16T00:03:48.733-07:002015-10-16T00:03:48.733-07:00You know, Art, one of these days somebody is going...You know, Art, one of these days somebody is going to have to scan, digitize, index, and concordance your works. It will make it much easier for not just your fans, but also for scientists who want to build on your work -- and help particularly in getting grants to study Primal Therapy. Is this being done as part of your Legacy Program?<br /><br />-- David T.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17461151222484604761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25228263845388414522015-10-15T15:16:16.617-07:002015-10-15T15:16:16.617-07:00Hi Sheri & Art,
-"He left out the brain ...Hi Sheri & Art,<br /><br />-"He left out the brain and the nervous system and the history"!!!!<br /><br />I saw a recent Farce book post: -"Mystery, not History"- . . . A kind-of 'Cognitive Martial Art' to deflect just exactly that 'omission'. . . ( I think in T/A thy call it: "Kiss Off"). . ?<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-72261066248564858872015-10-14T07:09:08.032-07:002015-10-14T07:09:08.032-07:00Hello Anonymous!
It is of great importance to me ...Hello Anonymous!<br /><br />It is of great importance to me and the truth behind the words can not be described in a simpler way. It's true ... true ... true and certainly do not need any excuses for being humorous<br /><br />Your FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-18240588951878867062015-10-14T01:37:42.387-07:002015-10-14T01:37:42.387-07:00Sheri, I had his therapists as my patients and th...Sheri, I had his therapists as my patients and they had no idea how to get below the exercise/physical part. He left out the brain and the nervous system and the history!!!! artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-47045982018337291232015-10-13T03:47:55.020-07:002015-10-13T03:47:55.020-07:00Whilst we debate the complexities of psychotherapy...Whilst we debate the complexities of psychotherapy, today, every day, countless helpless, innocent animals, born to live free, natural lives, will instead endure terrifying, agonising deaths in abattoirs after living the most unnatural and painful existences imaginable. 2 billiion will die this week.<br />Don´t they count?<br />This saddens me because in 22 years on the "primal scene" I have met extremely few vegetarians or vegans and almost noone who knows or cares about the hell that these animals endure. Why? They have the same feeling base - physical and emotional - as humans. They have the same survival instinct as us, and feel TERROR and PANIC as they are about to die. Dairy cows suffer weeks of emotional pain after their young are snatched from them after birth to be either imprisoned in darkness for a few weeks for veal, slaughtered, or destined for the same constant forced pregnancy and mastitis and pain as their mothers.<br /><br />The pain inflicted routinely on these tragic creatures is almost beyond imagination. The perpetrators, however, are acting under intense pressure to perform from abattoir bosses whose sole motive is profit. This is obviously primally driven. It means that zero consideration is given to the animals comfort, and employees use extreme brutality as a short cut to meet their production goals. Communities around abattoirs have extremely high rates of child abuse, "mental" illness and suicide.<br /><br />Meat, fish, dairy, eggs - the real price is in animal pain and human sickness, not to mention environmental devastation. It has been long known that the greatest action anyone can take to improve things on this planet is to go vegan.<br /><br />The animal holocaust only began in 1945. We evolved without it. It is completely unnatural, and I would expect any human without primal pain, including post primal patients, to see the obvious - that left to our natural devices we would be neither able nor willing to catch, kill and devour animal flesh - and to stop eating animals and their products. Sadly I´ve seen no evidence of this - maybe because my therapy has been in "mock primal" centres.<br /><br />The anthropological, paleontological, scientific and testimonial evidence that we are raw vegan is overwhelming: for a start: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Pe0FdA6CnGAhDUhKknqQGKdPmwWqEvWi8cYMZc5zZZg/preview?pli=1<br /><br />It´s not just the animals who suffer this hell, but massive evidence (The China Study for example) shows that consuming animal produce is the worst health practice imaginable. But is noone thinking? Do they think that the millions of vegans worldwide are all suffering from malnutrition? Far from it! (www.foodnsport.com) <br /><br />If we primal people care about ourselves, our healing and the welfare of others, why is there a resounding silence in the primal world on factory farming and vivsection? Aware vegans (most know nothing about our true dietary nature) know that attempts to educate animal eaters are routinely met with one of the many faces of DENIAL. The absence of intelligent, feeling response suggests, to me, primal pain, as does the defence of peoples RIGHT TO CHOOSE, even by most vegans. Really? So do people have this right to sexually abuse or beat children? To rape? To murder?<br /><br />I think when people get triggered by having their beliefs/practices questionned, primal pain takes over. <br /><br />The You Tube vídeo "The best speech you will ever hear"by Gary Yourofsky is indeed the best speech against animal consumption I have ever heard. It contains a 4 minute vídeo of "life" inside an abattoir. He asks you not to look away. If you eat animals or their products, you owe it to them to see the price of your dietary habit. His website is www.adaptt/org/ Gary<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25401968111272228822015-10-12T11:42:53.617-07:002015-10-12T11:42:53.617-07:00Vuko, interesting video of Lowen's. I liked t...Vuko, interesting video of Lowen's. I liked that he talked about the left and right brains, and also feelings being blocked from childhood. Also that talking about problems won't necessarily solve them as the cognitivists believe. Maybe the psychoanalysts should follow his way to get out of their heads for a while.<br /><br />But it seems to me that the exercise he recommends is a lot like yoga and tension relieving with some deep breathing or a bit of yelling. Might be too much for fragile patients.<br /><br />I was turned off by his demonstration of having that poor fellow in his boxers exercise in front of the trainees. Lowen seemed to lack sensitivity for his subject.Sherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600090931780217359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-25224869587175570952015-10-11T23:25:34.633-07:002015-10-11T23:25:34.633-07:00Hi Marco,
great post. Perhaps what Art has develo...Hi Marco,<br /><br />great post. Perhaps what Art has developed is a 'Process Model' for neurology. Aaand I think one reason why so many 'others' ignore Art's work is because they are still looking for the 'correct map of the brain' and don't want to admit it's already been discovered. . . But what they want is not a map so much as a kind of 'printed dollar bill' an 'invoice' for their silly machinations. . . An 'I O U' for their narcissistic assumptions. . .<br /><br />Another word I have heard which is a good word I think is "Systematics".<br /><br />I imagine what you call: 'Mechanistic' is the frontal brains 'acquisitive' tendency to 'reduce' new information into an existing model. Therein lies a clue to how (or should I say why) the frontal (figuring out) brain reflects the attempt at adaption by trying to approach a new situation in the light of previously experienced situations. . .<br /><br />These neurologists & various scientists just can't 'GET' how determined they are by their own thought processes, which of course are totally 'driven' by their limbic & brainstem imprints. . . As long as you don't have to have too much to do with these types you can learn to have a laugh at their expense because, actually they are VERY VERY predictable. . . Which they would be, wouldn't they? <br /><br />They really do need to wake up.<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-87282401509028144142015-10-11T19:18:19.408-07:002015-10-11T19:18:19.408-07:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgtI-io2fg
inter...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgtI-io2fg<br /><br />interesting video. but while he says how important is the expression from inside,<br />he is so busy instructing... isn't that the major source of abreaction?<br />for his age he is here in excellent shape, though. vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-16986262200464171442015-10-11T18:27:05.556-07:002015-10-11T18:27:05.556-07:00Thank you Art.
"Because strait is the gate, ...Thank you Art.<br /><br />"Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matthew 7:14<br /><br />Accepting the truth is hard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-62592092903847102432015-10-11T13:04:35.525-07:002015-10-11T13:04:35.525-07:00Art,
can I guess why your book collection is avai...Art,<br /><br />can I guess why your book collection is available to you? Could it be that you don't want smart arses like me asking you to thumb through to page x asking damn fool questions?<br /><br />My god, I am lucky Sheri answered. . .<br /><br />paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-694887942995116912015-10-11T13:01:19.506-07:002015-10-11T13:01:19.506-07:00Thanks Sheri,
excellent feedback, so true about c...Thanks Sheri,<br /><br />excellent feedback, so true about computers. . . also, masses of similar info on the same subject. . . like walking into a bookshop that specialises in Encyclopedias & Catalogues. . . Aand all I wanted was "piece of info X". . .<br /><br />yours gratefully trudging along the 'information highway' looking for a bus stop. . .<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-65737051084874312422015-10-10T12:50:53.843-07:002015-10-10T12:50:53.843-07:00Hi Paul. Is it the corpus callosum you are lookin...Hi Paul. Is it the corpus callosum you are looking for? In Art's book "Primal Healing" page 110 he says: "Our ability to connect our feelings depends on a key brain structure that serves as a bridge between comprehension of feeling, which is a function of the left brain, and feeling itself, governed by the right brain. This bridge is called the 'corpus callosum.' It is the most important of several highways connecting the left and right brains......"<br /><br />Also Paul, that link I gave a few weeks ago with the Harvard team' animation of "Untangling the Brain" I found can only be accessed by google and not yahoo. The more I learn about computers the more there is to know.<br />Sheri<br />Sherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600090931780217359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-10830459143485778932015-10-10T11:11:37.049-07:002015-10-10T11:11:37.049-07:00Once they are done I am on to the next or some oth...Once they are done I am on to the next or some other arcane reason. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-60793133839937913902015-10-10T10:55:41.890-07:002015-10-10T10:55:41.890-07:00Hi Art. I am curious, how come you never keep your...Hi Art. I am curious, how come you never keep your books?<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Steve Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13202466591672144117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-49851556144282637312015-10-10T10:41:30.400-07:002015-10-10T10:41:30.400-07:00Paul, I never keep my books so I cannot check. so...Paul, I never keep my books so I cannot check. sorry artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-38917665513294234702015-10-10T07:51:30.009-07:002015-10-10T07:51:30.009-07:00Paul,this maybe could fit your list too:
"we...Paul,this maybe could fit your list too:<br /><br />"we do epigenetic modifications by latest scientific methodology".<br />or<br />"we are licenced by State to do the epigenetic modifications required for legal health insurance, legal job, legal marriage... and high quality offspring. respectfully yours ______"<br /><br />Is the future of medicine epi epigenetic?<br />vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-1985798078735956932015-10-10T06:31:03.403-07:002015-10-10T06:31:03.403-07:00Hi Art,
It's not the Locus Ceruleus. . . My m...Hi Art,<br /><br />It's not the Locus Ceruleus. . . My mistake, but somewhere in Primal Healing you say there is a brain center / organ that may be the place across which left to right & right to left OBFC connections are transmitted but for the life of me I can't find it. . . <br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-70161677699630873212015-10-10T04:24:34.134-07:002015-10-10T04:24:34.134-07:00Sieglinde: Most interesting. The real piece comes...Sieglinde: Most interesting. The real piece comes out in one week. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-60147303760509094602015-10-09T15:57:36.372-07:002015-10-09T15:57:36.372-07:00Dr. Janov
It was inside, what I used to establish...Dr. Janov<br /><br />It was inside, what I used to establish the theory that too much Penicillin/antibiotics during pregnancy is harmful to the fetus. Remember I wrote about on this blog (about 2 years ago) that my mother used the pregnancy too much Penicillin; (side chain of biosynthetically derived penicillins with other chemical groups). <br />Now “The Guardian” writes: <br />http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/oct/07/lindahl-modrich-and-sancar-win-nobel-chemistry-prize-for-dna-research<br /> “All chemical processes are prone to random errors. Additionally, your DNA is subjected on a daily basis to damaging radiation and reactive molecules. In fact, you ought to have been a chemical chaos long before you even developed into a foetus,” …<br />and:<br />“Together, the repair mechanisms discovered by Lindahl, Sancar and Modrich fix thousands of DNA faults caused by UV rays, cigarette smoke and other toxic substances. They are constantly at work to repair copying errors as cells divide. Without these repair mechanisms, the genomes would be riddled with errors, and cancer would be rife.”<br />I wonder if ultrasound is also a contributor to gene alteration. <br />Best, Sieglinde<br />S. W. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12087227301358286386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-17896595624323702632015-10-09T12:13:32.472-07:002015-10-09T12:13:32.472-07:00Art,
-Yep- the price of honesty. . .
Paul G.
Art,<br /><br />-Yep- the price of honesty. . .<br /><br />Paul G.<br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-58081731164200526622015-10-09T11:59:29.184-07:002015-10-09T11:59:29.184-07:00Hi Dr Janov:
You say your orientation is scientif...Hi Dr Janov:<br /><br />You say your orientation is scientific, and I believe so also in the sense that one can discover certain emotional patterns and then affect them. We know and are comforted by the fact that life and human emotions are not random and thus potentially "knowable".<br /><br />But isn't your type of science different in some fundamental way from the science of say the neurologists who only look at the physical brain, and thus necessarily come up only with purely physical explanations for emotions and other mental events, and thus also come up with only possible physical solutions to any emotional or mental problems. Of course these purely brain oriented neurologists and psychiatrists are at a dead end. But I can understand them to a certain extent. Perhaps the differences between you and the mainstream can only bridged if these methodological scientific issues can be clarified. But I also think that one cannot really convince others intellectualy only re: the bio-emotional realm, feeling must convince the most of course. So how to bridge the gap? One possible lead comes from the fact that mainstream psychologists and psychiatrists, and most "hard" scientists , suffer from an emotional block that Wilhelm Reich says manifests as "mechanistic thinking", that is to say the usual nerdy/scientific or "professional" way at looking at the world . They can't be convinced intellectually because they are defended this way. Only some counter-emotional experience dissolving this block will get through to them is what Reich says. Reich has one case study of a "mechanistic" physicist that could not "get" Reich's work because of a block from very early childhood. I'm sure what I am saying here is nothing new to you, Dr Janov. Of course I am not defending the "mechanists" because they are really frustrating despite the fact that we may know that whatever we say will not get through to them. And , personally, I don't want to make it sound here that I have all these things figured out, and that I am so sensitive. I struggle between the head and the heart like most people.<br /><br /><br />Lowen writes a propos of my main points (clarifications by me in parantheses): <br /><br /> " I suppose the reason why ophthalmology ignores the (emotional) aspect of the eye (for instance) is that as a strictly scientific discipline it has to deal with objective data. The (emotionally) expressive aspect of the eye is not subject to objectification or measurement. But this raises the question whether a (strictly) objective scientific view could fully comprehend the functioning of an eye or for that matter a human being. Psychiatrists and other students of personality cannot afford this narrow view....<br /><br /> In a textbook on ophtlamology, the anatomy , physiology, and pathology of the eyes were descrtibed in a purely mechanistic way, as if the eye were a machine like a camera rather than an (emotionally) expressive organ of the personality. "<br /> (from "Bioenergetics" , Alexander Lowen, 1975)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Lastly, Lowen mentions you favorably in the book from which I quote above.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com