tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post419015162060520942..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: More on AddictionArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-16416025539791631552010-09-01T01:57:20.789-07:002010-09-01T01:57:20.789-07:00Frank. I am amazed. Please t ry now. We have n...Frank. I am amazed. Please t ry now. We have new people running the office. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-1249610097532831662010-09-01T01:56:32.278-07:002010-09-01T01:56:32.278-07:00Larry much appreciated. AJLarry much appreciated. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-32512007024109165052010-08-31T15:52:19.994-07:002010-08-31T15:52:19.994-07:00With respect to Dr Janov's comments on Hollywo...With respect to Dr Janov's comments on Hollywood, I just happenned to recently come across these sane and interesting comments on the same subjest by John Patrick Shanley, who wrote a Pulitzer prize winning play called "Doubt", subsequently made into a fine very moving and intelligent movie of the same name, starring Phillip Seymour Hoffman and Meryl Streep:<br /><br />''When I was in Los Angeles, I was in the above-the-line community pretty much all the time,'' he said. ''And it's a very small group of people who basically reassure each other that they must be doing O.K. because they're in the room with these other famous rich people. I found it, after a while, just antithetical to my nature. I like to make a good living, but there are limits to how much cash is good for a person to have coming over the transom every day. It's also addictive. Money is like heroin, and I grew up in a neighborhood that was destroyed by heroin. I've watched addiction all my life. Celebrity is like heroin. And constant praise is like heroin. And, you know, no one can resist constant praise. I had to get out.''<br /><br />And here are some details of his tough upbringing:<br /><br /><br /><br />Shanley's mother died in 2002. So what was the problem, exactly? <br /><br />''She was a pill,'' he said. ''It took me many years of thinking, reading psychological tomes of various kinds, talking endlessly, writing plays, to finally say: 'You know, she was a pill. That was the problem.' And in my climactic interchange with my mother, she called me up and said: 'What was it? What was so terrible?' And I said very easily, very kindly really, 'Well, you just weren't very affectionate.' And she said, 'No, that's not how I am.' And that was the conversation. To get to that was a byzantine, tortuous road. But that was the crux of it. These things always end up being pretty simple.'' <br /><br />Not really. In Shanley's ''Beggars in the House of Plenty'' (1991), Pop, a butcher, terrorizes his eldest son with a cleaver and says: ''You'll look for love to stop the starving thing in you that I put there, but nothing will stop the starving thing. I'll never approve of you.'' In the same play, Ma bemoans her recurrent headaches. <br /><br />''My mother wasn't comfortable with me no matter what I did,'' Shanley said. ''When I was a kid, she had these terrible headaches, and was always screaming, 'Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I've got a splitting headache!' And many years later I said, 'Do you still get headaches?' And she said: 'What are you talking about? I don't get headaches.' I said, 'Wait a minute, when I was growing up you had headaches all the time.' And she thought about it and went: 'Oh, yeah. That's true.' I said, 'When did they stop?' She said, 'When you left.''' <br /><br />He went on: ''I remember I'd asked if she had seen 'Five Corners,' my first movie. And she said: 'No, I haven't. I understand the mother is thrown out the window in that movie.' And I said, 'Yeah.' That was the end of that subject.<br /><br />(excerpts from the article "The Confessions of John Patrick Shanley" by Alex Witchel. New York Times Nov 7, 2004 )<br /><br />Marcomacor22https://www.blogger.com/profile/00652948318839690382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-28713920324109237402010-08-31T01:07:14.914-07:002010-08-31T01:07:14.914-07:00Art
Sorry I was at the institute at Almont’s driv...Art<br /><br />Sorry I was at the institute at Almont’s drive in 1977- 78… that is stocked in my head sorry Art. We applied at your center for Isabella and got an answer which we had to complete… which we have done and got no answer. Sorry Art! <br /><br />Yours FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-21651128997710821142010-08-30T14:56:16.371-07:002010-08-30T14:56:16.371-07:00Frank: Not the institute. It is the CENTER. SAN...Frank: Not the institute. It is the CENTER. SANTA MONICA, CALIF. 209 ASHLAND AVE SANTA MONICA CAL. 90405Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-57143112129543329332010-08-30T12:05:41.142-07:002010-08-30T12:05:41.142-07:00Art: Great article! I'm looking forward to you...Art: Great article! I'm looking forward to your latest book. I also need to read your last two, so I can catch up and understand where Primal Therapy is today (I haven't read them all however. I've read 3 others. Your first, ... 20 years later, and The Biology of Love).<br /><br />I have a question or two and some thoughts on this statement (from the article above):<br /><br />"So many parents wonder what they did wrong because their child was and is addicted. Maybe they did nothing wrong because the root of heavy addiction goes back to long before they had a chance to mistreat the child."<br /><br />How is it possible that parents didn't aid in their addicted child's addiction, after birth? I'm sure there's a small percentage of parents who didn't make things worse (I'm guessing less than 10%) and if the majority of parents are making things worse for their children, than why mention the minority (it seems you're offering these parents a safety net... your kids are messed up, but you might not have been apart of their problems)?<br /><br />I (really do) assume I'm missing something here, and I would love for you to clarify this for me (or to show me where I can find the info).<br /><br />(If you have the time, please read my whole comment, just so you realize I'm not someone threatened by your research and therapy. I truly love what you're doing!)... (but I do get carried away sometimes...)<br /><br />Also, I believe if parents abuse their children after birth, they were defiantly abusing them while they were in the womb, e.g., with drugs/alcohol, husband beating the wife (or vise-versa), yelling/belittling the wife/husband, how the mother deals with her pains/fears/anxiety, dreams/nightmares/night terrors, other people, and anything else that makes the mother anxious, unstable, and/or scared... Not all mothers deal with all of these things, but most deal with some of these things.<br /><br />My thought on the profound life in the womb. I believe that because there are situations where the new born/infant/toddler sometimes fights for it's physical life and mental health/life, these traumatic situations are just as critical as the life in the womb.<br /><br />I know I stepped outside my bounds here. I did it because, I would love to learn why there seems to be this profound distinction between the life in the womb, and after birth. Is it because so many so called professionals still invalidate (or completely ignore) the importance of life before birth? If so, than I believe I understand you stating the extreme importance of life in the womb. But that being said, as someone who hasn't been fortunate enough to go back that far (and someday it would be great to do just that), I feel the need to validate that time of my life (because that's all I know right now), where I was "knowingly" hurt the most (after my birth). I can only imagine the horror of my mother's pregnancy, and the horrible effects it had on me, and still does.<br /><br />I might have written myself into a corner, or around in a big circle. I don't think I quite did that? (15 more minutes at the keyboard, and I would have... I would probably need 30 more minutes, because I write so slow).<br /><br />To tie all this babble together, I stumbled onto your website last night, and I'm excited to have access to it. And because of my excitement, I believe my comment was way too long. I'll be brief (I hope) in upcoming comments.<br /><br />Anyway... I'm extremely happy that you continue to improve the therapy, and that you continue to prove, what you knew existed, before you had the means to prove it (and with all the new stuff that comes with those findings).<br /><br />And lastly (Finally!) I did PT late in 2001 (for a full month). It was a wonderful big splash into my past (if I write about it now, then everyone will surely hate the new guy... so I won't).<br /><br />I'm still working on my stuff, blah, blah, blah, and I look forward to upcoming articles (and reading as many as I can from the past).<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />LarryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-67035827362954878502010-08-30T01:55:03.604-07:002010-08-30T01:55:03.604-07:00Art
We have applied for Isabella… Aidas daughter a...Art<br />We have applied for Isabella… Aidas daughter at the Institute but received no answer yet? I am convinced that she will do well in primaltherapy. She will sign upp for training if possible?<br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-69159503101597538812010-08-30T00:48:32.806-07:002010-08-30T00:48:32.806-07:00Emmanuel: Listen in Jewish life, fat means healt...Emmanuel: Listen in Jewish life, fat means healthy so mothers plied kids with all kinds of crap, and then they get addicted to food. No surprise. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-69796748295959851372010-08-30T00:45:44.370-07:002010-08-30T00:45:44.370-07:00We use the board a lot. France, my wife, is an ar...We use the board a lot. France, my wife, is an artist and so uses visual aids all of the time in training. I want people to contribute but since I have spend years preparing books to help others understand, it would be nice if readers availed themselves of the information. It will be too late to sign up for training in another 2 weeks! art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35860263661307204682010-08-28T04:01:59.340-07:002010-08-28T04:01:59.340-07:00Dear Art ,why is it that I am (was..hopefuly..) so...Dear Art ,why is it that I am (was..hopefuly..) so addicted to sugar containing foods-if it was only the s u g a r it would have been by far cheaper to ingest a little and all would be well!!!-My earliest memories are foods presented by my father -bread with sugar on it -and often my depressed mother gave us money to buy sweets instead of wholesome lunch... how i s a n e that was .My point is :did I really c h o o s e my "pain soother" or was it because those irrational behaviour of my parents.<br />I was n e v e r in danger to drink alcohol or smoke or the "hard drugs" or prescrition drugs I got -b e c a u s e I felt immediately the sideeffects!<br /> My friend who was born half-dead always smoked beside his ton of anti psychotic drugs .. Yours emanuel<br />P.S. when i read the refinement remarks ... of the P.T. I get sometimes a g r e a t longing to come and get rid of all the mental debris ...in meemanuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01380331335118885426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-69336575179181532032010-08-27T18:00:08.195-07:002010-08-27T18:00:08.195-07:00Art,there is a difference between a person who con...Art,there is a difference between a person who contibutes a thought and a person who believes he can refine Primal Therapy.<br /><br />House, the TV show, depicts students throwing wild, random ideas to House, and he is quick to fire those who are too boring...but he writes the interesting ideas on a board.<br />I am mildly interested in psychopaths (the people who ruin the world and prevent the spread of Primal Therapy). You say they cannot be reached. That's interesting.<br />Am I trying to be better than you? Am I trying to invent a therapy that goes further than yours? nope. Just curious<br /><br />Nuerotic intellects are sometimes good, sometimes confused, and sometimes merely uneducated. I wouldn't say horrible.<br /><br />I am finally reading Primal Healing....should have done that long agoRichard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.com