tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post3986174959291054427..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: Looking Back on Five Decades of Primal TherapyArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-84058962859845909822015-10-31T15:37:22.758-07:002015-10-31T15:37:22.758-07:00Michele,
Merci beaucoup. J'aime ce que vous a...Michele,<br /><br />Merci beaucoup. J'aime ce que vous avez écrit<br />Woman is the nigger of the world / Yes she is, think about it / Woman is the nigger of the world / Think about it, do something about it<br />John Lennon, Yoko Ono, Plastic Ono Ban<br />Released: 1972<br />As a woman and mother of two beautiful daughters I frequently reflect on how I have damaged them...and I have been in and out of therapy for a very long time. I feel responsible and I Am responsible because I should have known better.<br />I gave birth au naturel. But, in the end you are who you are with all of your pain and fuck ups and your damage is passed on, inevitably. Having children I think is the hardest thing there is. In retrospect, I probably would not have taken this road and brought children into this world because it is too hard to raise healthy undamaged children. It is a long hard road to undo ones own damage and pain and then there is the world that we live in that keeps getting more and more inhuman and difficult to live in, especially if we seek health, sanity and humanity. <br />But, what about the father... it is only recently that there is talk about the condition of the father's health and sperm in the importance of a healthy fetus. Previously the concentration seemed to be only the mother's responsibility.<br />An example... It was found that rates of pregnancy were significantly lower when the father was obese because embryos generated with sperm from obese males weren’t very good and failed to implant into the mother’s uterus.<br />A fathers poor diet prior to conception can be detrimental to the success of pregnancy. When fathers were obese and able to achieve a pregnancy, the resulting fetus and placenta were both smaller than normal and the fetus was developmentally delayed. As the theory of the developmental origins of health and disease suggests, these small-for-gestational-age fetuses are at a higher risk of disease in later life, including cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure. Sperm are particularly vulnerable to oxidative stress, which can damage DNA. Thus, a fathers health is just as important as the mothers prior to conception and pregnancy and has a serious impact on their child' s health.<br />The father is equally responsible for the well being and future of their child prior to and after birth. <br />As women and mothers we do and should feel our responsibility in creating healthy unneurotic children and fathers who are consciously aware do feel an equal responsibility in their children's health and future.<br />Nous, les femmes et les mères ne sont pas les seuls à blâmer pour le tort qui a été fait.<br /><br />Jean H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-29797856711841838522015-10-29T04:39:55.021-07:002015-10-29T04:39:55.021-07:00 Bonjour Michele: Il me semble que les meres sente... Bonjour Michele: Il me semble que les meres sentent beaucoup plus de culpabilite pour sus enfants que les hommes parce que la societe les donne beaucoup plus de responsabilite pour eux. En realite, je pense que la ordre naturel des choses cést que les peres devraient prendre beaucoup plus de responsibilte pour sus enfants quíls font dans láctualite. Une femme qui nést pas mariee peut etre abandonee pour l´homme quand elle devient enceinte mais la societe nóblige pas a cet homme a etre pere a son enfant. Si la femme ne peut pas obtenir une abortion ou une adoption , elle doit elever lénfant toute seule. Ou est la pere? il est libre de toute responsibilite tandis que la femme a (1) toute la responsibilite, e pourtant toute les emotions de culpabilite et (2) la condemnation de la societe pour etre une mere non mariee. Ce que je veux dire cést que la societe patriarcal impose beaucoup de responsabilite et de jougement aux femmes, mais non aux peres. GaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-43773478371098571162015-10-27T05:57:08.755-07:002015-10-27T05:57:08.755-07:00Michele
Women get blamed for much that is not thei... Michele<br />Women get blamed for much that is not their fault, including male violence towards them, so I know women themselves come to feel responsible for so much which is not their fault. I would like to see more on this blog about the responsibility men have for traumatising their children, because it takes two to create a baby and I don´t see why a man should have the right to abandon responsibity for a baby if he accidentally impregnates a woman. If a woman is forced to have the baby by the unavailability of abortion (still not available in most countries) and bring up the child on her own, she then gets all the blame when she is a "bad mother". Unfair. Gary Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-7181264691061625652015-10-24T05:22:38.516-07:002015-10-24T05:22:38.516-07:00Michele,
hardly a day passes without me feeling r...Michele,<br /><br />hardly a day passes without me feeling remorse for the effects I passed onto my children. . . . <br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-80468780523163096372015-10-24T02:23:49.844-07:002015-10-24T02:23:49.844-07:00Michèle, tu as raison. Je dois plus écrire sur ca....Michèle, tu as raison. Je dois plus écrire sur ca. désolé. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-62549571632275709412015-10-23T17:44:28.855-07:002015-10-23T17:44:28.855-07:00I'm readings your blogs, and 2 of your books (...I'm readings your blogs, and 2 of your books (in French), and I wonder how come it is only the responsability of the mother for the imprints. My English is not very good to traduce my thinkings. You never talk about the father, but I think there are as much heredity and feelings,on paternal side than maternal site. At the beginning of my readings, I felt very guilty about the imprints I left to my children. But I did what I can, with the tools I had at that time. Now if I would have to live those moments again, for sure I would act differently. I do not want to feel this culprit anymore, which means do you suggest ? My children are 41 and 42 years old. Michèlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-4377573193429811842015-10-22T13:16:34.344-07:002015-10-22T13:16:34.344-07:00Hey Gary,
there's a caveat there: - "for...Hey Gary,<br /><br />there's a caveat there: - "for life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday".<br /><br />Well, um, if you're not neurotic I suppose. . .<br /><br />Paul G.<br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-23853625187968709292015-10-22T09:55:53.429-07:002015-10-22T09:55:53.429-07:00An email comment:
"I appreciate that, even fr...An email comment:<br /><em>"I appreciate that, even from the depths of my experience in my personal neurotic hell so well developed from my miserable birth and painful upbringing. I look as a man in a burning hell into my faults and the faults of this world. My attempts to improve any of it are as flawed as my neurosis. I have finally ditched religion, but am still subservient in my low status encumbered with ADD with its resultant memory problems and divergent creative "go no where" attempts. My circumstances are so poor that I can't climb out, and I find myself servile to the same harmful influences I experienced as a child from my parents. I have no delusions that I am well a part of the whole mess, and yet I can see above it all to a shining star of promise that is you and your clinic and work, and I wonder within myself "Why can't others see this?" Were I rich I would surely invest in your therapy one way or another, were I in government I would seek to invest tax dollars in your projects and therapy. I feel so frustrated. So all I do is support politically what might help in some small way knowing full well that the sea change we need will only come about with healthier minds and hearts, and my attempts to pull idiotic ideas of religion from others is like trying to take a teddy bear from a frightened overwhelmed child. It is the pain as you say, it's all about the pain, and the cure of it. Giving to politics as I do in small portions of time and money seems almost a waste as even the plea to have emotional intelligence classes in schools is turned down by those in politics, and the dance around the neurotic middle, now left now right is like an endless neurotic dance condemning ourselves and our world to early deaths and needless misery. So wrapped up in ourselves that we cannot look at things from social facts we jump up and down about shallowly thought out political proposals and kill the buoyancy of life that should keep us improving our world. .... So when I hear you complain, I hear you. I feel you, and I do try to help in my small ways. "</em>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-83601938017314473072015-10-22T09:54:28.380-07:002015-10-22T09:54:28.380-07:00Erron, I did get back to you and I do really want ...Erron, I did get back to you and I do really want them. Can you send them to the Center as I will be out of town for 5 weeks. art<br />I also hope to see you.Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-26549133481673254592015-10-22T04:18:10.706-07:002015-10-22T04:18:10.706-07:00Well I´m sure you won´t disagree wth this Art:
&q...Well I´m sure you won´t disagree wth this Art:<br /><br />"Your children are not your children.<br />They are the sons and daughters of Life´s longing for itself.<br />They come through you but not from you,<br />And though they are with you yet they belong not to you.<br /><br />You may give them your love but not your thoughts,<br />for they have their own thoughts.<br />You may house their bodies but not their souls,<br />for their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow,<br />which you cannot visit,<br />not even in your dreams.<br /><br />You may strive to be like them,<br />but seek not to make them like you,<br />for life goes not backward nor tarries with yesterday.<br /><br />You are the bows from which your children as living arrows are sent forth.<br />Let your bending in the archer´s hand be for gladness"<br /><br />KAHLIL GIBRAN<br />GaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54238964412988642362015-10-22T00:43:18.179-07:002015-10-22T00:43:18.179-07:00Art,
Do you still want those "The Journal of...Art,<br /><br />Do you still want those "The Journal of Primal Therapy" issues? I have the complete set, although silverfish ate a bit off the cover of one copy when I was living in a dive. <br /><br />I can send them if you want, I have offered this before but you didn't get back to me. The only Quid Pro Quo I would ask is that I have first dibs on republishing them one day, as the final act in my life I would like to feel would be to republish all the primal stuff in a format that does it justice. <br /><br />Not doing too well these days – lots of health issues – but I intend getting to LA next year by hook or by crook. <br /><br />Just to be able to say that I lived the last part of my life in reversal of the first 60 years. When I die, I want to go down swinging, and feeling :-)<br /><br />Erron<br /><br />raindoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714998714610881831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-59182119316421357272015-10-20T09:25:00.741-07:002015-10-20T09:25:00.741-07:00Gary, I would disagree but to each his own. art...Gary, I would disagree but to each his own. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-60656673333786683772015-10-20T03:45:09.357-07:002015-10-20T03:45:09.357-07:00Art. Nice to read this overview, and nice too that...Art. Nice to read this overview, and nice too that you always write with a completely free mind, unencumbered by planning what you will say in advance. <br />If primal therapy has found that average body temperature drops over time to finally rest at 96.1 degrees, I read years ago that the average amongst vegan raw fooders is between 93 and 95 degrees. I would also say from LT personal experience on the Natural Hygienist variant of raw veganism and the reading I have done about it and its effects on thousands of people, that the average body temp on this diet may be even lower, which would tend to confirm the NH hypothesis - fully supported by paleolontological and anthropological findings, that our natural home is the tropics (where most of us lived till 10,000 years ago) where such a low body temperature would be completely apprpriate. <br />The reason given for lower body temperature in LT primal patients is that the job of continuously overworking to keep primal pain repressed generates a lot of excess heat. Similarly, the work involved in dealing with all the toxins, overload and nutritional inadequacies of animal produce, cooked and additive-laden modern food place great heat-generating stress on the human body - apparently even more so than primal pain. GaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54345522295542926702015-10-19T11:15:16.898-07:002015-10-19T11:15:16.898-07:00It is always my pleasure; I want a better, health...It is always my pleasure; I want a better, healthier world. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-91512917358134774532015-10-19T09:35:03.420-07:002015-10-19T09:35:03.420-07:00Thanks for writing this Art. Thanks for writing this Art. beachcoast7https://www.blogger.com/profile/17348238170525257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-50514328079030689962015-10-18T11:30:19.040-07:002015-10-18T11:30:19.040-07:00onto my road to freedom (which is still ongoing) I...onto my road to freedom (which is still ongoing) I faced many people who claimed that they have cure for me. I used to read Yalom's books, later I realized that it is not the way. Looking for my life I know that in my current enviroment it is almost impossible to get to my trauma. My wife doesn't belive me - she says that I am going insane, but I know. NOONE shouldn't push me out of my truth. Wish you healt Arthur. Thanks for your work. Maybe my son will get a grant, for me it is too late.Katarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911400318077957562noreply@blogger.com