tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post3133926789558358065..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: Epigenetics and Primal Therapy: The Cure for Neurosis (Part 20/20)... the EndArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-65012539441293473602016-04-14T20:40:14.757-07:002016-04-14T20:40:14.757-07:00An email comment:
"Wonderful! Clear! The clou...An email comment:<br />"<em>Wonderful! Clear! The clouding of cause is dispersed and the clear skies of sanity revealed.<br /><br />Bravo Arthur Janov, how wonderful your message, may it become a revolution throughout society world wide.</em>"Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-82633189157382678012016-03-19T07:20:58.756-07:002016-03-19T07:20:58.756-07:00"No neurochemical evidence of brain injury af..."No neurochemical evidence of brain injury after blast overpressure by repeated explosions or firing heavy weapons."<br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20637009<br />it is reassuring to read that. at least for the method they used and caliber they used.<br /><br />what is the caliber of near death first line reaction? are our souls a battlefield that reflect in our dangerous behaviors and destructive chemical processes in out tissues? how early can we suffer inflammation in utero? week 1, 10, 20? can life grow where the bomb exploded? if yes, what are the preconditions? what does it look like? is it enough for prevention?<br />is there a book in writing about it? vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-1493781302331555412016-03-16T06:14:00.161-07:002016-03-16T06:14:00.161-07:00Art
You mentioned in Primal scream that you come u...Art<br />You mentioned in Primal scream that you come up with idea of primal pain when you saw screaming man during psychoterapy sesion. You've succeded, no one baffled you. How is it possible?Katarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911400318077957562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-71945542626384787692016-03-16T03:17:03.252-07:002016-03-16T03:17:03.252-07:00Hi apollo,
having done extensive personality typi...Hi apollo,<br /><br />having done extensive personality typing training in panels involving groups of us recalling personal testimonies of ourselves as a 'type', and also experiencing the resultant temporary break through to true feelings, I am sure personality can broaden, become more flexible and soften. However, the problem with 'exercises' like these (they are a kind of sophisticated & emotive gestalt) is that they tend to make traumas less accessible. Why? because these 'exercises' make our personality more adaptable and therefore more expertly defensive. This may be a good thing for some but the hazard is in obfuscating access to trauma. The outcome being a new form of 'pseudo - community'. Whereas, I imagine the result of working in Primal groups would result in permanent reduction of early imprints, allowing members to relate with much less of the filter of personality. Personality as a defense would adapt according to reduction in traumatic pressure and thus allow a different relationship, perhaps more loving in 'community'. <br /><br />So many of the 'workshops' I have done did no more than re-arrange my neurosis and fool me into thinking I had gained an 'inch' in life. . . <br /><br />Paul G.<br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-77663964763234937262016-03-15T14:48:01.168-07:002016-03-15T14:48:01.168-07:00And my answer: Don't worry, I have plenty of s...And my answer: Don't worry, I have plenty of strength. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-62419743927463259842016-03-15T14:47:33.127-07:002016-03-15T14:47:33.127-07:00Another email comment:
Dear Art.
Today I dream...Another email comment: <em><br /><br />Dear Art.<br /> <br />Today I dreamed few Dreas. First I’ve get Lester from sou J Secondo it was a nightmare with pure terror, someone would like to kill me. Today morning, at new job, still the same. I am still in place whre I shouldn’t. Invigilation, treating people like slaves. I wake up in the morning and I want to say good night. My whole life is builded up on child trauma. There are some people who I tried to explain what it is all about and as it is not hard to imagine that they pissed me off and everyone tells me that I need treatment in hospital. Yes, give me pills, more pills. Shut off my soul. I am deep in shit, and frankly speaking I don’t see exit doors. Sometime I think about suicide, shot in the head.<br />When my mother was pregnant she used to hit stomach and tell “I don’t want this baby (me)”. I know that my parents had hard life conditions, my father were beaten by his father.<br />My mother told me that when I’ve born I always cry, cry, cry. Later I had hernia. It passed 8 months and they’ve taken me to hospital to perform surgery. From early childhood I remember only fight between my parents. My mother could tell me few times per day that she loved me, but for me it was a lie. But what I could do? Nothing, just try to hide. My mother always tried to destroy my dating with girls, she “talked” with them and teach moral rules. She killed me so many times.<br /> <br /><br />Art, please don't stop publishing on your blog until you have a strength.</em>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-86413564615525176942016-03-15T14:46:37.897-07:002016-03-15T14:46:37.897-07:00Vuko: I was next to the 16 inch gun mount during t...Vuko: I was next to the 16 inch gun mount during the war, and most of us in the crew went partially deaf due to the blast. Every blast moved us 16 feet to the side. It was never NEAR danger; it was immediate danger with enemy all around us. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-18507262050477799462016-03-15T14:42:30.321-07:002016-03-15T14:42:30.321-07:00Part 2:
Many, especially in the US, are hesitant ...Part 2: <em><br />Many, especially in the US, are hesitant to accept the truth of evolution and at the end of the day, they prefer Genesis. That is their way, obeying to the fourth commandment, to forgive their parents for a loveless old-fashined upbringing and unconsciously to go on with it. Fortunately, evolution is so rational and smart that it counteract our failures and abuses, however at a high fee = deep depression when we do not obey the law of life of love, touch and attention. We understand when we see the official US statistics below:<br /><br />Percentage of persons age 12 and over by depressive symptom severity <br />and race and Hispanic origin:<br /><br />Race and ethniticy Depressive symptom severity Percent Std.error<br />_____________________________________________________<br />All persons <br /> No symptom 77,2 0.8<br /> Mild 15,3 0.5<br /> Moderate 4,7 0.3<br /> Severe 2.9 0.2<br />Hispanic<br /> No symptom 73.9 1.3<br /> Mild 16.7 0.8<br /> Moderate 5.7 0.6<br /> Severe 3,7 0.5<br /><br />Non-Hispanic black<br /> No symptom 73,2 1.0<br /> Mild 17.1 0.7<br /> Moderate 5.6 0.4<br /> Severe 4.1 0.5<br />Non-Hispanic white<br /> No symptom 78.5 1.0<br /> Mild 14.6 0.7<br /> Moderate 4.3 0.4<br /> Severe 2.6 0.3<br />______________________________________________________<br /><br />This statistic if from the economically richest country in the world. With a population of 322.000.000 that makes 20.000.000 people with moderate or severe depressive symptoms. Add to that 40.000.000 people with mild symptoms.<br /><br />I admire Dr. Janov that he continues his dream / obsession of a general feeling / demethylation therapy. 50 yeras after his breakthrough and improvements in the Primal Principle, the situation in the worldwhen it comes to mental suffering and repressed pain, is certainly no better. However, how can 200.000 shrinks look themselves into their eyes when they judge their professional contribution in the light of the above statistics. The shrinks no. 1 supporter, the pharmaceutical industry, of course, sees my question as an insult. And so does all those who receive their paychecks from them. <br />My suspicion of the honesty of these 200.000 shrinks (with few exceptions) is challenging. They no longer feel the truth of their own pain. They are evolutionary prison guards in the treadmill of pain. They have in many cases given up their original psychotherapeutic ambitions and turned into prescription writers.<br /></em>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-42137817485069863442016-03-15T14:36:22.017-07:002016-03-15T14:36:22.017-07:00An email comment:
Can somebody be both intelligen...An email comment: <em><br />Can somebody be both intelligent, honest and psychotherapist at the same time?<br /><br />The Inventor of the Primal Principle / Evolution in Reverse wrote in a blog: "Truth needs no defense except when that truth is more than the organism can integrate. That is why many therapists, in the booga booga dominated world, live inside their defense. They no longer feel the truth of their pain.” Therefore, I would like to know how “honesty” is defined between the 200.000 shrinks in the USA. <br /><br />My header is a paraphrase of an old joke I borrowed from a cancer scientist and author who experienced the difficult political reversals, with profound implications during 60/70ies in Hungary. Since I, as a Swede, was exposed to the same joke myself in the United States, I will tell the “joke”: <br />One can not be intelligent, honest and psychotherapist simultaneously. All two-combinations may occur, but never the three-combination. Being intelligent and psychotherapist, one was not honest. An honest psychotherapist is not regarded as intelligent and an intelligent and honest person would not be a psychotherapist.<br /><br />A joke can ease a suffering but never dissolve repressed pain. The joke can make the repressed pain more bearable. Apart from the evolutionary repression of pain, explain how else we can accept each second to surround ourselves with lies so they fit into our lives. Mor or less sophisticated needs/neurosis/lies make us belong to a pattern, a culture, a faculty, a treatment etc. etc.<br /><br />During many years of analysis and findings, which Alice Miller and professional colleagues conducted, there was an almost consistent pattern among those who studied psychoanalysis: They had a basically emotionally insecure mother. An unconscious, intuitive ability to feel and live with the parents' needs was a function that they, unknowingly, had internalized. This surrogate for love charged the child to fill a need valuable for its potential careers. It is no wonder that they, as adults, often chose to become psychotherapists. Without this childhood's fate, who could mobilize interest to days on end seek to explore what goes on in their patients' unconscious?<br /><br /><br /></em>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-60482505795881762952016-03-14T21:06:22.217-07:002016-03-14T21:06:22.217-07:00there is also a related research about the effect ...there is also a related research about the effect of so called "blast over-pressure" (high explosive blasts in combat zones) on brain tissue. brain doesn't seem to like it. duh? "... a mild blast exposure, which is a common occurrence among OEF/OIF/OND service members, might elicit CNS disturbances capable of setting the stage for long-term tau pathology."<br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4126588/<br /><br />i read that during WW2 US navy used 16 inch (406mm) caliber cannons on their war ships. those could load 1200kg shells to hit targets 30km away!? friendly fire blasts could maybe produce dangerously strong pressure on the brains of soldiers on board.<br /><br />high impact sports somehow became very profitable business all over the world. the rush of conflict. the near danger. projected. acted in and out. should we say> in the land of the prisoners and scared ones... vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-73940896410799010062016-03-14T18:11:08.723-07:002016-03-14T18:11:08.723-07:00Vuko, very interesting lecture by Dr. Omalu. He c...Vuko, very interesting lecture by Dr. Omalu. He commented that when he saw football players wearing helmets it must be a dangerous sport. We can hope parents will listen and keep kids from playing brain-damaging sports. <br /><br />As for belief in primal theory, it may take that brain-measuring science to convince finally the psychological community of this as a way to undo our damage. Hope that it works out well. We here are already believers, though. Good luck, Art.Sherihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03600090931780217359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-24840690405291507572016-03-14T15:17:19.883-07:002016-03-14T15:17:19.883-07:00vuko,
"Therapy is not over at the session&qu...vuko, <br />"Therapy is not over at the session"; this is true. But many people don't pay any attention to their feelings, and although they may think that they are trying to make right decisions, sometimes they are unfortunately making the wrong choices. Nowadays it seems people of any age are too caught up in the "social hoopala" that is out there, and don't give a thought to feelings or the possibility of going to a therapist. Sure I'm all for someone having a good time whenever they feel they are up to it, but for some it is habitual, and they don't even think ever about how they are feeling as a human being (if they are "up to going out that day or night socially")...they just go out , crowd their busy work week with socializing every night or every other night or spend a lot of time on facebook or talking with friends, "networking". Then the weekend comes, and that is "booked". It's like "get the schedule as hectic as possible, and forget about feelings of any sort, especially about the way they are feeling. Well. some do this, and they think at times they make right choices, but they are socially pushed many times now. Some find it hard just to say "no". Some , although they try to make the right choices, get burned out , and what good does that do for them or for anybody. beachcoast7https://www.blogger.com/profile/17348238170525257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-83325863337935463302016-03-14T08:58:12.707-07:002016-03-14T08:58:12.707-07:00"...make choices in life that are not directe..."...make choices in life that are not directed by pain..."<br /><br />i think it is important to warn all parents in US and around the world about the sport activities they choose for their children. just few days ago a watched a movie "Concussion" and Dr. Bennet Omalu lecture on the subject. it is one of those discoveries that are really matter of common sense. now that i watched it, it makes sense to me, at least. <br /><br />therapy is not over at the session. it is when it's results are applied in making good decisions. because the science of it just won't be available and often it is just not enough.<br /><br />http://bennetomalufoundation.org/about-cte<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOKvhcBelwQvukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-81919378654758249062016-03-12T23:26:05.564-08:002016-03-12T23:26:05.564-08:00“We can not change personality so long as . . .”
...“We can not change personality so long as . . .”<br /><br />We can change some aspects of it but certainly not anything drastic. For that, PT is the answer.<br />Just my thinking on the matter.<br />apollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040184843184207525noreply@blogger.com