tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post2973401116335319576..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: On the Act OutArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-71098367911074390532011-03-18T19:07:16.396-07:002011-03-18T19:07:16.396-07:00And so one of the key elements it seems to me has ...And so one of the key elements it seems to me has been an abiding appreciation of the dialectic, and for this discussion in particular the dialectic of theory and practice (i.e., the interpenetration of the two, one becoming the other and in turn again becoming the other). Sounds easy: discovery and practice become theory that in turn generates more discovery and evolution in practice. It’s not. What is easy is for theory to crystallize into a filter that ignores or reshapes (actually, misshapes) new information and hinders the development of practice (as brilliantly elaborated by Thomas Kuhn in his classic The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, and who wryly observed we often have no recourse but to wait for the old guard to die off for new ideas to take hold, so strongly does the old guard cling to its theories in spite of mountains of anomalous data). Sounds familiar, doesn’t it? And as with our personal belief systems, undoubtedly old pain and feelings play a central role in theoretical petrifaction in the sciences, despite the typical protestations of open-mindedness, objectivity and truth seeking.<br /><br />And so it goes that it’s easy to collectively get stuck. I recall Art’s insisting back in the 70’s the staff have diversity (and I don’t mean the politically correct token diversity of appearances). I don’t know if he or France still insist on that, but I imagine they have remained true to the principle and I believe that genuine diversity makes a real difference. It helps mitigate groupthink and getting collectively stuck. My experience, for example, is that the staff at the old Primal Institute devolved into a clique of sameness after Art and Michael Holden dissociated from it, one that has become quite stagnant. Just check out the website—even the pictures of the managing staff are decades old. And the therapy there suffers for it, as my therapy and that of others I knew and know attest. That’s not necessarily to say the people there aren’t well meaning, or don’t really care, or that one can’t get some real help there. I am saying that the therapy there only goes so far, and one will get bad therapy masquerading as good at some point, and no acknowledgement of that nor attempt to remedy. The clique’s petrified self-interest and power structure supersedes. And other splinter groups I have known seem to suffer the same fate—stuck in some place or another eventually. And sometimes, tragically, it takes bizarre and dangerous turns.<br /><br />And so another very key element has been the continual grounding of Primal Theory and Therapy in neuropsychology, cellular biology, physiology, biochemistry—in a word, science. Michael Holden’s contributions were immense. But Art’s perpetual insistence on that continual grounding has been the keystone. That’s another element one doesn’t see much of in splinter or mock primal therapy efforts, and one that helps keep theory and therapy evolving, in part because of those fields’ own momentum and evolution.<br /><br />And so at the Janov Primal Center, Primal Therapy is a science. But it is also quite an art…pun fully intended, for key elements of its continuing evolution and power derive from, in a word, Art. And so, with love, thank you Art for being you.Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588429660714376343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-63738641122995474992011-03-18T19:05:31.244-07:002011-03-18T19:05:31.244-07:00What I've written exceeds the allowable charac...What I've written exceeds the allowable character limit, so I'm posting twice back-to-back:<br /><br /><br />My wife was telling me last night about some postings she had been reading in Art’s blog archive regarding Curtis Knecht, a former therapist at the Primal Institute I knew and worked with a little bit many, many years ago. The back and forth she described got me thinking.<br /><br />Any theory is always just a map of the territory, not the territory itself. But it is natural that over time, assuming a scientific approach and earnest persistence, more becomes known and theory and practice evolve—the map becomes more precise and accurate.<br /><br />What I marvel at is how Art, France and the folks at the Primal Center have persevered. It’s one thing to retain a steadfast focus in pursuing theoretical knowledge and a practice, it becomes quite another when the pursuit also entails feeling one’s own pain. Our brains are amazing globs of tissue and particularly adept at keeping us from feeling pain, regardless of how much we have already felt and integrated. And close interpersonal relationships, social relations and institutions often, if not usually, reinforce, if not demand, the tendency. It is truly marvelous that Art and a cadre of people have continued to go deeper.<br /><br />I was a patient at the original Primal Institute in the 1970’s and 80’s, and watched many of even the most senior staff get stuck one way or another. And I have gotten quite stuck myself, wasted years and caused others I love deep pain as a consequence—and probably shortened my life some as well.<br /><br />So I have often wondered about the characteristics and conditions, both personal and collective, which give rise to continuing to go deeper, feel more of one’s pain, and in the case of theory and therapy as well as personally, continue to evolve. It’s speculation, but considered speculation, that key elements in the ongoing evolution of Primal Therapy initially at the Primal Institute and subsequently at the Primal Center come from Art’s Weltanschauung, which one gleans from his writings and Primal Therapy in practice (at least as he has practiced it). It is materialist dialectic in nature and strongly scientific in bias.Pagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10588429660714376343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-13932034521714038872011-02-09T13:25:33.662-08:002011-02-09T13:25:33.662-08:00Jack, I did propose / postulate / assert / conject...Jack, I did propose / postulate / assert / conjecture upon another reason why the intellect developed. I will paste it here for your convenience. Art, the theory inventor, has read it and is not too stubborn to see some logic in it.<br />I can see you are starting to understand my point. The intellect can be non-neurotic, and I think you should include that point in your well-written arguments.<br /><br />____________<br /><br />here's my theory:<br /><br />Hordes of not-very-hairy primates were thriving when the earth was very hot. But as the earth started to cool, most of them died because their instincts did not align with their environment. However, there was one group of hot-weather primates who began searching for the remains of dead animals. They began using the animals' furry hides to keep warm. They were not following their hot-weather instincts. They were the first thinkers.<br />Their intellect was nothing more than a teeny weeny mutation in the cortex...far too small to articulate false beliefs. This tiny intellect was dominated by the force of the limbic system. But the intellect grew bigger because of the ADAPTIVE advantages it provided. This clever primate did not specialise in any particular survival strategy other than adaptation. And so the intellect grew bigger and bigger. Eventually it became big enough to accommodate the complex thoughts necessary to generate and maintain false beliefs.<br />____________<br /><br /><br />thanks for offering me your e-book. I'd like to read it when I have the time.<br />my email: richardatkin@windowslive.comRichard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-51223421950235210452011-02-09T00:22:32.325-08:002011-02-09T00:22:32.325-08:00An email comment:
"You're better than a g...An email comment:<br /><i>"You're better than a guru any day of the week. I just wanted you to know that you are sometimes helping people without ever knowing it. I'm not asking for anything, I just wanted you to know."</i>Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-82309189476448018712011-02-09T00:12:15.880-08:002011-02-09T00:12:15.880-08:00An my answer :
I think you know the answer to you...An my answer :<br />I think you know the answer to your question, and look at your progress; there is the proof. I am so glad you are doing well. Love artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-66271353488642863122011-02-08T19:30:45.028-08:002011-02-08T19:30:45.028-08:00Some good posts here recently. Richard, you seem t...Some good posts here recently. Richard, you seem to know quite a bit about life extension yourself. Very cool! Some good comments, too.<br /><br />I note Mr. Slater makes some sense. But here is the importance of the intellect as I see it.<br /><br />Primal pain is always scrambling our heads and making fools of us, seemingly keeping us in the dark. the remarkable thing about advanced science and learning is that it is almost counter-intuitive. And what I mean by that is that if we follow the evidence by instruments, since the eyes can be deceived, and we follow those readings wherever they take us, we often end up down a road that seems almost impossible to be and yet we can see no other possibility.<br /><br />Sherlock Holmes (AC Doyle) once said, when your remove the impossible, what ever is left, however improbable, is the truth.<br /><br />I see PT and PP that way. Remove the impossibles, and you are left with only one conclusion. PT is a fact. It may be intuition that verifies it for you, but for many, it is the path of evidence that determines it.<br /><br />So for more people to find PT, it is good if we can help them along that path of evidence, which is always being interfered with by PP causing disruptions from within. The intellect is a friend, not an enemy. It can still hurt us if it is manipulated by PP. But it can also help us overcome or get past PP to discern the value and certainty of PT.apollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040184843184207525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-26680276172938866832011-02-08T13:27:41.155-08:002011-02-08T13:27:41.155-08:00Richard: We're getting into semantics here, ...Richard: We're getting into semantics here, but I did not ASSERT that the intellect ... I conjectured upon the beginnings (evolution) of thinking. In essence I don't actually know; so I can only postulate/conjecture. Using the word 'evolve' in the context that I wrote it and then inferring (as I suspect you are doing) evolution in it's general sense makes it sound like something else.<br /><br />The, so called, intellect, is an outgrowth (development) of thinking ... IMO. If indeed you did propose another reason why the intellect developed, then I missed it completely. So maybe you are right I was not listening/reading and you're sure on target suggesting I am conceited ... and arrogant to boot. <br /><br />However, be careful that the kettle is not calling the frying pan 'black'. You saying:- "We should encourage our children to stay away from that damned neurotic intellect", is fine, provided that we first define the difference between 'neurotic intellect' and 'non-neurotic intellect'. That statement, by my standard, is "Rovian" logic. (in my book I call that; Lazy Dog Syndrome). I would rather say;- if we left our children to feel (a natural born faculty, which has it's beginnings in the womb) then the child would be able to know it's own mind ... without adult indoctrination ... however wise.<br /><br />Another inference might be that you are suggesting Art took my (silly) theory. I took Art's theory (not the other way round) and personally I tend to keep away from creating theories and try to stick to just conjecturing. If you will leave me an email address I will get back to you with a free e-copy of my book, only 129 pages), and I would welcome any and all your comments via email between us. JackJack Waddingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427501529242639591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-58606441273607550672011-02-08T09:15:20.924-08:002011-02-08T09:15:20.924-08:00Art, i dig your last comment, in french; shows a n...Art, i dig your last comment, in french; shows a nice sense of humor on your part...allez!<br /><br />nelsongrumpyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07620337750803837746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-61971282288369377712011-02-08T00:50:40.781-08:002011-02-08T00:50:40.781-08:00Richard: a vos ordres, monsieur.Richard: a vos ordres, monsieur.Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-48034090368142121302011-02-08T00:48:07.495-08:002011-02-08T00:48:07.495-08:00Paul NL: I have known about his work for 40 year...Paul NL: I have known about his work for 40 years. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-91912904318841271572011-02-07T19:41:38.724-08:002011-02-07T19:41:38.724-08:00Thanks Jack, nice input...Thanks Jack, nice input...raindoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714998714610881831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-13950011364438644242011-02-07T14:58:50.113-08:002011-02-07T14:58:50.113-08:00Jack, in November you were asserting that the inte...Jack, in November you were asserting that the intellect has been neurotic from the moment it began to evolve. You say that it's only purpose is to enable us to survive without feeling. This is why thoughts, no matter how logical, will always lead to an unfeelingful solution. <br /><br />In other words, the world's painful problems can never be solved by a machine that has been designed to avoid pain. <br /><br />(Frank has also expressed this point). You go on to say: If we use our feelings, there will be no problems in the first place.<br /><br />______________<br /><br /><br />I am listening and understand your point. You are not listening.<br /><br />You challenged everyone to present an alternative theory to explain the evolution of the intellect. I gave you one because I was trying to show you how anything is possible. You can't base your entire argument on a theory that doesn't fit with real-world observations.<br /><br />Children get pleasure from designing tree-houses because they are neurotic? We should encourage our children to stay away from that damned neurotic intellect?<br /><br />I know you don't mean that. Like Galileo, your assertions appear ridiculous, but only because you oversimplify. <br /><br />I enjoy your writing style but I think it needs to be more scientific. Read Primal Healing chapter five.<br />(now who's conceited?)<br /><br />and by the way, Art, I think I saw Jack's silly theory in Primal Healing. It's what I call a "useless theory". Don't use it again.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-53054868861436394782011-02-07T12:38:51.525-08:002011-02-07T12:38:51.525-08:00I see that cell therapy is probably not available ...I see that cell therapy is probably not available in the USA.<br />http://www.icbr.com/<br />Here an article about Paul Niehans who discovered it in 1931.<br />In books nowadays on stem cells this man is totally ignored.<br />http://www.icbr.com/icbr.htm╔╬╝https://www.blogger.com/profile/04177205449720864631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-37238828239852037832011-02-07T01:45:21.648-08:002011-02-07T01:45:21.648-08:00Is nt the intellect a problem solving device? I th...Is nt the intellect a problem solving device? I thought the problem was pain in all its forms. So because of pain (or maybe in order to maximze pleasure)the brain set about figuring out ways to avoid pain even to the extent that eventually weve even solved how to get rid of old pains from our past(We actually know whose intellect actually finally figured it out - amazing). Now of course the intellect can be hijacked by Pain but does that mean its a bad thing? Just because my sex drive can be hijacked doesnt mean sex is bad.<br />Primal will never get rid of pain. Rocks will still fall on people and leave orphans, floods will still drown the innocent. But now we have a way to feel our pain and go on and not prolong sufferingMrSlatersParrotSpeakshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09486036451276865362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54563877957132074462011-02-07T01:30:16.967-08:002011-02-07T01:30:16.967-08:00Therapies with stem cells are around for a long ti...Therapies with stem cells are around for a long time.I had celltherapy in 1973 (embryonic stem cells from lams)and that was very positive.The idea is that injected stem cells find their way in the body to find places where repair is needed.<br />A lot of scientific research have been done back then but it has been totally ignored by mainstream science.Now the scientists are doing all the science over again and in fact snatch the whole concept.(they offcourse want their own Nobelprize)╔╬╝https://www.blogger.com/profile/04177205449720864631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-65568611969196032612011-02-06T21:05:28.320-08:002011-02-06T21:05:28.320-08:00Well, yeah, I guess that might take up some time. ...Well, yeah, I guess that might take up some time. Maybe some of your therapists? So much to do and so little to do it with. I know the feeling.apollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040184843184207525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-89449105606820981812011-02-06T19:02:07.898-08:002011-02-06T19:02:07.898-08:00Erron: "... but the constant changes worry...Erron: "... but the constant changes worry me. Maybe it’s just my need for consistency, but I really question the use of something that alters even as you look at it." My feeling is that you are looking at the wrong factor. If in fact you wanted to train to be a therapist then yes the changes are ever ongoing as with the medical profession in general, where most professionals go back and do some ongoing training, but that is not what I gather you are really talking about. If you are interested only in doing the therapy then the developments in training are not relevant. Primal theory does not alter and the subjective experience of the therapy is very individual, so you should have nothing to worry about. The consistency is in the theory, if that is what you feel you must have. JackJack Waddingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427501529242639591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-34185911357358673162011-02-06T16:43:30.264-08:002011-02-06T16:43:30.264-08:00Hi Apollo.
"Biology and physiology and life ...Hi Apollo.<br /><br />"Biology and physiology and life extension have also made impressive gains. It never ends and why should it, right?"<br /><br />Axolotls (salamanders that never reach adulthood) are quite happy to have their entire eyes and large portions of their brains removed and replaced with the eyes and brains of other axolotls. The surgery is crude, but the axolotl's natural healing ability ensures that errors are corrected, and organs are restored to full functionality. The animal is essentially stuck in the fetal development stage; the stage when stem cells respond to a genetic map of the body. An entire leg can be removed and it will grow back in perfect detail (but slightly smaller). (Axolotl owners: please don't do surgery on yours).<br /><br />There is a wealth of information to be gained from stem cell research and the regenerative power of the genetic blueprint. Human immortality may be achieved within the next hundred years if we can agree on issues of morality.<br /><br />My advice to anyone who wants to live forever: get Dr. Janov's Primal Therapy as soon as possible so that you will live a long time. Register to have your body preserved at Alcor in Arizona when you die. It is important to be there just before you die. Their preservation methods insure minimal cell damage in the brain.<br />Damaged cells can be restored or replaced in the future. THEIR research is moving ahead like a freight train because they ride on the back of the extensive research in organ transplantation.<br /><br />This is not science fiction. Art, I know you would rather die, but that's an ignorant point of view. You should stick around for the future. Imagine living without pain in your throat.<br /><br />that's all I want to say. I won't talk about this topic any more.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-26481164442667185872011-02-06T13:01:56.357-08:002011-02-06T13:01:56.357-08:00apollo: Hey you donno? France Janov is the clini...apollo: Hey you donno? France Janov is the clinical and administrative director of the primal center for many years. She teaches how to do it. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-72970897418008062792011-02-06T13:00:59.961-08:002011-02-06T13:00:59.961-08:00Erron: Hey You know why I say it is always changi...Erron: Hey You know why I say it is always changing? cause it is. I subscribe to every science journal in the U.S. and England plus some in France. I read and write every day to try to perfection this therapy. I have never rested on my laurels but done everything to help make it as good as it can get. AJArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-56317884085595023922011-02-05T22:40:30.224-08:002011-02-05T22:40:30.224-08:00Arthur, I have no doubt there is far more to learn...Arthur, I have no doubt there is far more to learn, particularly from the point of treating people. But I don't have to worry about that. I don't think any of us ever stops learning.<br /><br />The book sounds very good. I haven't finished the 2007 book yet ;-) Right now I got other things on my plate. But I find new science all the time. New and obscured stuff, too. After all, military science is 30 to 50 years ahead of public or commercial science. Its fun trying to 2nd guess them.<br /><br />But I would say that Primal basics are pretty obvious. there is no good excuse for many academics to ignore or deny it. Arthur, maybe you should put your wife to work writing as well, or some option near to that ;-)<br /><br />But I definitely look forward to the new stuff. Biology and physiology and life extension have also made impressive gains. It never ends and why should it, right? Thanks.apollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040184843184207525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35303244090612961452011-02-05T15:40:31.078-08:002011-02-05T15:40:31.078-08:00Art,
It’s both dismissive and untrue to say Curti...Art,<br /><br />It’s both dismissive and untrue to say Curtis Knecht spent the last 40 years debunking PT. He wrote that one article to clear his head about what he’d experienced after 8 years in therapy as patient and therapist, and then got on with his life. I’m sure he’d say you’re the one who’s been banging on about the same thing for the last 40 years. To paraphrase: I am evolved, he is evolving because he agrees with me, they are dead and unfeeling because they do not? I hope you can see the point.<br /><br />At any rate you also make the point that “way back then we did not know as much as we do now.” But you say this every few years, or even more frequently. Why would anyone accept your invitation to spend several years (and possibly every cent they have) becoming a therapist, only to read a few years after ‘graduation’ that what they learnt is now dangerously passé, and they need more training? At that rate, the applicability of PT on a wide scale that you and others hanker after is never likely to happen.<br /><br />I’m frustrated because this year I will finally have the means to support myself anywhere in the world, and I would like to spend the last years of my life more productively than I have up to date. Studying PT is the only thing I really keep coming back to every time I think about this dilemma, but the constant changes worry me. Maybe it’s just my need for consistency, but I really question the use of something that alters even as you look at it. <br /><br />I should probably have been a religious fascist of some sort, need something concrete to believe in. But that doesn’t work either, so sad about God...<br /><br />Erronraindoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714998714610881831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-20682030550102655042011-02-05T13:17:57.293-08:002011-02-05T13:17:57.293-08:00As an after thought I can't help adding that w...As an after thought I can't help adding that what Art is saying, "we are the higher power" is what all religions and philosophies have been saying for millenia.<br /><br />We might be compelled to discover who we really are as fragments of a arger whole. Who decides on this journey, why?<br /><br />Evolution really is the key because our intellects allows us the power of self referal and self reflection and therefore self learning. If the intellect is in any way distorted in its' self referal and self reflecting modus then any trajectory of action "will" be "off the mark". We won't see ourselves as we are but "through a glass darkly". (Or any-one else).<br /><br />From my limited experience of Primal I see a way to correct the over-all correllation between the three brains as a permanent cure, ok this obviously takes decades, a life time for many of us but so do all other ways. . . and they're just palliatives right?<br /><br />It's easy to talk about 'ways' as if they were either an end in themselves or a route to some other dimension or reality somewhere else. Either / Or.<br /><br />But actually ways bring us here, now. That's what the first part of Arts' most recent blog is saying and it's true. Unfelt pressures will distort who we are. Feel now and be real now, it's an old hackneyed catch phrase but absolutely true.<br /><br />Lastly, I know thoughts like these can't change my first line pain but they sure do help to de-construct my illusions. Without my illusions I am more ready to feel, more ready to empathise with others and more able to bear pain in adverse situations. <br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54225415552153468432011-02-05T12:34:47.616-08:002011-02-05T12:34:47.616-08:00Richard: I never wanted a reason for the evolut...Richard: I never wanted a reason for the evolution of the intellect. In my book (sorry to be flogging this horse again), but I explained why I CONJECTURED the intellect developed ... it needed more than a couple of paragraphs to do so. It was IMO a mechanism to kill Primal Pain. So good is this 'painkiller' (act-out) that we've hung onto it with our (metaphorical) finger nails ever since ... it's so, so effective. If I remember I was asking you, YOUR reason for the evolution of the intellect, since you posed there must have been a reason. To use the intellect to prove the validity (or naturalness) of the intellect, is tantamount to trying to disappear up our own ass-holes.<br /><br />In my own naive conceited way I wrote the book for us laymen, to simply and briefly layout the Primal Notion. My analogy; to be the Galileo simplifying Copernicus for the Primal notion. I obviously didn't succeed cos no-one (it seems, other than Art) even read it, let alone had some understanding of what I was trying to say. "C'est la vie".<br />JackJack Waddingtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06427501529242639591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-87399076115777533462011-02-05T11:26:49.580-08:002011-02-05T11:26:49.580-08:00Hi,
this is regarding Arts' last comments on ...Hi,<br /><br />this is regarding Arts' last comments on religion, God and Science.<br /><br />There is a middle eastern traditions which invests in work on three brains through 4 successive stages and deaths of selves (no surprise there); eventually one becomes completely 'anhialated'. . . From this same body of knowledge and tradition it is said that God does not dwell on Earth because it's too dense here. <br /><br />Given the long and diverse traditions of understanding us humans as three brained beings it should come as no surprise that eventually someone would find a way to access and cure body knowledge. Until Primal it would appear that all other attentions to the body brain have been palliatives. . . I don't know, what do you all think, or should I say feel, or do I mean sense?<br /><br />There is an old metaphore for the human psyche as a "three legged stool" each brain being one of the legs. Each of us has a leg too short and/or two legs too long. The work to be done is to level up the stool.<br /><br />It seems to me that Primal is up against all of these ancient traditions as well as most of the modern ones because it calls to attention a new cure for our self preservation and existence. Ok, there are many other claims. . . <br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.com