tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post2852048277831827869..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: The Beauty of Primal TherapyArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-80079193015519909472016-11-16T00:05:59.638-08:002016-11-16T00:05:59.638-08:00The piece also made me think of children's (na...The piece also made me think of children's (natural) beauty; inside and out. It's adults who are usually ugly. JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-57210154557167956332016-11-15T23:49:31.676-08:002016-11-15T23:49:31.676-08:00Planespotter, that's a way of seeing it!: a cu...Planespotter, that's a way of seeing it!: a cult of one (or more, depending on siblings). I'm staying w/my Dad (&wife) briefly at present, the third time since I was 15. Having my reality externally dictated (and questioned..) has made me feel disconnected, &very unhappy. I won't be doing it again. All the best, JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-40790348041571367492016-11-15T23:30:21.420-08:002016-11-15T23:30:21.420-08:00I was too Art. Altho my early interests were recog...I was too Art. Altho my early interests were recognized &supported to a degree. I often wonder how I was able to be so in touch with myself, regardless. JacquieJacquiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10794214106644328210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-26674630729801795822016-10-15T09:57:21.986-07:002016-10-15T09:57:21.986-07:00Richard, I use current events as an illustration o...Richard, I use current events as an illustration of what can happen when Primal principles are violated. But I keep politics and personal opinions out of science. art.Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54026816404688545152016-10-14T22:33:08.642-07:002016-10-14T22:33:08.642-07:00Hi Art. I know this is not a political forum, but...Hi Art. I know this is not a political forum, but I noticed you talked about the likelihood of fascism developing in America (in facebook). You also talked about Donald Trump depicting Muslims as the source of all of our problems. Do you think this type of mass-hypnosis could lead to an unjustified attack on peaceful Muslims, tantamount to the killing of millions of Jews, even if Hillary Clinton becomes president? And do you think that millions of hypnotised people should be concerned about the roughly 300 million Muslims who advocate the introduction of Sharia Law to non-Islamic countries?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-19213332291893901842016-10-14T12:53:17.474-07:002016-10-14T12:53:17.474-07:00"Primal truth make us the ONLY scientists tha...<br />"Primal truth make us the ONLY scientists that can EVER know it"<br /><br />I think the only way there is to get the world's attention is through human behavior around primal therapy... by clinical trials. Not to prove it to professionellas but to show what has going on for so long without being told what is happening! <br /><br />The professionals resistance as in panic over their own situation persists for what their life holds... it is an impossible situation to manage. To talk you in to it... to sit down and have a healthy dialogue... there is no way to do so! <br /><br />They has to know (and you know what that is all about)... and if they do not do so... what so ever their thought is all about.. they end up in the same situation that was the reason we started our process in primal therapy... and if they do not know what is happens... you know... what can we do?<br /><br />How much scientists we ever becomes so it will only be our own science as long as we are the only ones who live it! To be a scientist can be a try to show others what I can... that is the equation! When anyone understand and feel the science of primal therapy they are scientist by them selfs. What I am saying is... to be a scientist in Primal therapeutic context eats up himself. To live it... it is what we must do to understand all what science around primal therapy is... then we all are scientist and the rest shows his suspicion or lives as they have gone through primla therapy without the slightest idea what happened and perhaps they see themselves as scientists? That's what a scientist can be today... if you know what I mean? <br /><br />What is an incredible experience it is that we are human and we can hold out against many who think themselves to be different! <br /><br />Your Frank<br />Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-5106937214198839822016-10-14T08:03:18.294-07:002016-10-14T08:03:18.294-07:00In a world of regular, popular science we can be t...In a world of regular, popular science we can be the first and the only one who knows truth. This knowledge can be rejected or recognized and awarded. Shared with the world…. proved. <br />Primal truth make us the ONLY scientists that can EVER know it. Truth that can also be rejected or recognized and awarded. Can it be shared? Proved?<br />These two sciences should work together, right? It could be beautiful. It could be special. Modified (and better!) version of science? Organic. <br />Art, it is interesting that you have been in both of these two scientific situations…<br />vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-9603493275580815482016-10-13T13:58:49.825-07:002016-10-13T13:58:49.825-07:00My need is me... my boddy!
Frank.My need is me... my boddy!<br /><br />Frank.Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-26729310370656110502016-10-12T21:36:44.225-07:002016-10-12T21:36:44.225-07:00There is a group in LA called Pacific Eye and Ear ...There is a group in LA called Pacific Eye and Ear care who do treat it, 3104775558 good luck. art<br />Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-42544789713548556982016-10-12T13:49:57.113-07:002016-10-12T13:49:57.113-07:00During Nicolae Ceaușescu's reign of terror in ...During Nicolae Ceaușescu's reign of terror in Romania the Orphanages were full of unwanted children (because women were refused abortions) and many of the very young babies were left alone in thier cots and never touched or interacted with an simply fed. They went grey and died from lack of love and from great pain I am sure. planespotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05315637682741508786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-74194313949732725162016-10-12T05:17:34.488-07:002016-10-12T05:17:34.488-07:00Thanks primal teamThanks primal teamKatarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911400318077957562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-31481252115189113602016-10-12T03:09:19.329-07:002016-10-12T03:09:19.329-07:00We're lost in our world of thoughts that we ar...We're lost in our world of thoughts that we are forced to stay in as help we need do not understand better!<br /><br />How are anxiety to be of something in the past as pain of it lies in the limbic system well hidden by narrowing... repressed by our neocortex... neocortex a fort to defend against suffering... suffering because it was so painful to be in need to feel in our limbic system. And now we suffer because we do not understand what help we need!<br /><br />Well in the neocortex... we can only look in to our future not back in to our history... it of its task of being in our neocortex... a thinking world that is wary of to feel.<br /><br />To feel is for many of us a pain near death and where can we find our need of love in a horror full experience if we do not understand it... feel the reason of it? <br /><br />We must not seek out anxiety to feel... even if it is our clock to perceive it... we must seek it up in a way and in a amount possible to cope with. Otherwise we will continue having anxiety of what is to come... and not for what was.<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-29046421954583644552016-10-11T10:09:13.262-07:002016-10-11T10:09:13.262-07:00Piotr, Erron on the blog is offering help. check...Piotr, Erron on the blog is offering help. check it out art<br />Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-40321436291846736802016-10-11T10:07:11.047-07:002016-10-11T10:07:11.047-07:00Erron, you have no idea how delighted I am, it mea...Erron, you have no idea how delighted I am, it means a lot to me. thanks art<br />Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35490022780962218262016-10-10T23:36:24.770-07:002016-10-10T23:36:24.770-07:00The split reality!
I understand only through my a...The split reality!<br /><br />I understand only through my ability to feel... if it is so that we can only understand something if we feel it (the big picture of life). So I'm the one who understands or not! It does not matter what Einstain explained with his theory of relativity... I understand only what he explained based on my circumstances to do so.<br /><br />If one now imagines this be the basis for what all "professional" in health care around psychological factors exert so you just have to think of the consequences... as primal therapy is far from being the knowledge around these professional.<br /><br />So... they must stop their efforts to be Einstain if they ever shall achieve the what is beautiful!<br /><br />Having suffering throughout life it can not be anything but beautiful in the process of getting out of it (I agree with you Art)... it as the expression of beautiful has been without its nature... nature of feelings to perceive what is beautiful... as emotion makes possible. But how will you be able to understand it without the link to what is beautiful? Without understanding the hell that we carry with us in the limbic system! <br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-12373839515728533142016-10-10T23:24:46.101-07:002016-10-10T23:24:46.101-07:00Piotr,
I can't guarantee you will get the sam...Piotr,<br /><br />I can't guarantee you will get the same results I did, but I used Sound Therapy – CDs of specially manipulated classical music – to cure my tinnitus. I thought at first that the best I could hope for would be partial relief, but I can honestly say that it seems to have gone for good. And that was several years back.<br /><br />If Art will permit me to post it, here is the website if you are interested:<br /><br />http://www.soundtherapy.com.au/<br /><br />Erronraindoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714998714610881831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-60745450402986133622016-10-10T23:16:07.601-07:002016-10-10T23:16:07.601-07:00Yes, just finished it myself, and agree, another g...Yes, just finished it myself, and agree, another great book, Art. I see now my 'conversion' to Catholicism at the tender age of 7, in its true light! Thanks heaps.<br /><br />Erronraindoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09714998714610881831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-22077757914624195412016-10-10T17:14:10.521-07:002016-10-10T17:14:10.521-07:00Piotr, I wish I were a specialist in that conditi...Piotr, I wish I were a specialist in that condition but I am not. Sorry art<br />Arthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-72362035607145163172016-10-10T17:08:26.961-07:002016-10-10T17:08:26.961-07:00Planespotter, you are so welcome. artPlanespotter, you are so welcome. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-35876506254978187232016-10-10T13:15:34.943-07:002016-10-10T13:15:34.943-07:00Hi Art
Totally off topic but have just finished &...Hi Art<br /><br />Totally off topic but have just finished "Beyond Belief". A fantastic book with so much to absorb. I realised that my Father ran a cult of one, me (oh and maybe my sister). When I started to stand up to him and tell him what I though in my late 40's it was quite obvious that he was falling apart as I had removed his position as cult leader. he then faded away as the full extent of my Mothers domination of him (and his Mothers domination) wore out his lungs. He suffocated to death which I am sure also reflected problems during his birth. Thank you for a great book.planespotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05315637682741508786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-20608300902677060372016-10-10T04:40:34.365-07:002016-10-10T04:40:34.365-07:00Art is it a chance that this hellish Titnnitus wil...Art is it a chance that this hellish Titnnitus will go away from me after therapy?Katarzynahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911400318077957562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-56413147808138868352016-10-07T21:22:37.970-07:002016-10-07T21:22:37.970-07:00Nice Marco. artNice Marco. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-61979881164746657312016-10-07T01:43:09.193-07:002016-10-07T01:43:09.193-07:00I seek out my pain when I get off the train headin...I seek out my pain when I get off the train heading to the wrong station!<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-842739073501014372016-10-07T01:30:40.942-07:002016-10-07T01:30:40.942-07:00More on what could be beautiful!
On the verge of ...More on what could be beautiful!<br /><br />On the verge of madness... in the grip of madness... we must search for the beautiful... but not with it!<br /><br />Beautiful is an emotional experience... and we are suffering terribly without it... it in our neocortex for what is leaking from the limbic system. We are talking about BEING the pain... it before it is possible to experience what is beautiful! <br /><br />We are suffering terribly as we approach our need cemetnerat in the emotional part of our brain (we shall not let it come up... we shall look it up). That is what we are up against for what can be beautiful... pain without awareness. <br /><br />So a question is what is beautiful before it is possible? Perverted behavior in the process of alleviating the misery!<br /><br />It is on the brink of what should be beautiful... but now are drenched in pain where we struggeling in our lives which we must tackle before we can talk about what really is beautiful.<br /><br />My suffering is my companion but also my future storyteller away from it!<br /><br />FrankFrankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02242354226308728116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-72642907870681084932016-10-06T09:38:52.416-07:002016-10-06T09:38:52.416-07:00I can relate to this notion of having had to fend ...I can relate to this notion of having had to fend for oneself emotionally.It's amazing :you go through a long life in this alienated society and rare is the time that any genuine contact is made with anyone else, despite your great need and natural inclination to do so. And that does not seem to bother most people. Your parents have no idea what is going on with you deep down, and you certainly are not going to risk telling them, because what you will get in return is miscomprehension, or rejection, or well intentionned but useless superficial "positive thinking" banalities.All they saw, in my case, was an angry rebellious "lazy" mouthy son, and my father's response was not to get involved or say "be nice "; and my mother's response was to try to beat me into abject submission, trying mightily and sadistically to make a half-dead polite responsible "hard-working" half-human out of me (It didn't work!!).<br /><br />How utterly insane! Thank "God" a few people have tried to make some sense of it all, like Janov, and many artists. Here are some lyrics that have helped in the last few days:<br /><br />"Drift away" by Mentor R. Williams<br /><br />Day after day I'm more confused<br />Yet I look for the light in the pouring rain<br />You know that's a game that I hate to lose<br />I'm feelin' the strain, ain't it a shame<br /><br />Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul<br />I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away<br />Oh, give me the beat, boys, and free my soul<br />I wanna get lost in your rock and roll and drift away<br />(Won't you take me away?)<br /><br />Beginning to think that I'm wastin' time<br />I don't understand the things I do<br />The world outside looks so unkind<br />I'm countin' on you to carry me through<br /><br />And when my mind is free<br />You know a melody can move me<br />And when I'm feelin' blue<br />The guitar's comin' through to soothe me<br />Thanks for the joy that you've given me<br />I want you to know I believe in your song<br />Rhythm and rhyme and harmony<br />You help me along makin' me strong<br /><br /><br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com