tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post1239096009136550077..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: The Memory of HurtArthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-55513361246567256462014-08-19T11:59:19.060-07:002014-08-19T11:59:19.060-07:00Hi coastbeach7,
thanks for responding. I'm fr...Hi coastbeach7,<br /><br />thanks for responding. I'm frustrated with my own 'will less ness'.<br /><br />But also I am suffering because 'spreading the word of Primal' to the social services where I live has resulted in a disaster. My son is soon to be assessed by an independent shrink to see if Primal Theory has made him ill. . . <br /><br />Or more to the point that I have made my son ill by discussing the past with him (in a Primal context). I have also (allegedly) made him resistant to 'other forms of therapy'. Allegedly. . . All because of Primal Theory. . . Oh yeah, I stupidly admitted I have PTSD and abreaction and even some re-living experiences. . . so now I'm not being considered as a viable carer for my grandson should my son fail his 'parenting assessment'.<br /><br />Thus my grandson is likely on the adoption register. Apparently I am the cause of a 'self fulfilling prophesy'. . . By discussing traumatic history. . . Furthermore old FALSE allegations of serious crime (by me against my son) have been wheeled out from the records and are now staring me in the face. . . Just to keep me quiet I think.<br /><br />Because I am 'resistant'. . . Thus the authorities are playing "thought police".<br /><br />You Will Not Discuss Primal for fear of having your children removed from your care because you are stuck in the past and resistant to other 'cures'.<br /><br />Paul G.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Beware who you discuss Primal with. . .<br /><br /><br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-85352319542354746752014-08-18T15:52:31.066-07:002014-08-18T15:52:31.066-07:00Hi coastbeach7,
-"what can we do"?
let...Hi coastbeach7,<br /><br />-"what can we do"?<br /><br />let me extrapolate for a moment:<br /><br />When we do try to "get the word out there"-. . . remember there will be an opposition who can only deny the obvious. Try not to over-react to their denial. . .<br /><br />Try always to be passionate despite their accusal you are angry, and try always to be persuasive despite their accusal you are 'manipulative'. <br /><br />Their denial always reduces your evidence. . .<br /><br />Evidence of feelings, that is their denial, not yours. Stand firm in the face of denial.<br /><br />Paul G. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-53432748084703669092014-08-11T14:49:17.729-07:002014-08-11T14:49:17.729-07:00Paul, what can we do? More people in the world, m...Paul, what can we do? More people in the world, more people are here to just find suffering, many people just suffering by the way they are born and what happened in the womb. For some, nothing gets through. What Dr. Janov has to say , possibly it is "Arts new crafting of one of his older messages." but what he has to say is important. Before reading what Dr. Janov had to say....I was suffering in life more. Just reading what he has to say and I do believe what he has to say is important for me and to other people. If one cannot afford primal therapy right now, then Dr. Janov's books and his e-mail blogs will have to "suffice" for now. Before reading anything about what Dr. Janov had to say....I was going around really "wondering" about myself. Wondered why at times I was the way I was. I do believe that people are better having received Primal Therapy, and having reading Dr. Janov's e-mail blogs, his books....he doesn't get through to a lot of people, a lot of people just don't know or realize because there are so many people in the world now. What Dr. Janov has to say, in my opinion, is very important to reveal; to express and to get "the word" out there. beachcoast7https://www.blogger.com/profile/17348238170525257587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-50075460428398350262014-08-11T03:46:00.988-07:002014-08-11T03:46:00.988-07:00is imprint a memory or epigenetic change? the word...is imprint a memory or epigenetic change? the word imprint suggests something durable, so my interpretation is that imprint is a memory (experience). everything else is a measurable manifestation of that memory - epigenetic included.<br />that is one of the reasons i think we cant catch and define the imprint from outside. so slippery it is. adjusting and reacting to new environment.<br />it intrigues me for some time this line between real and unreal...<br />i should read more about it .. but ahh.vukonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-44875937023771375952014-08-10T13:05:32.870-07:002014-08-10T13:05:32.870-07:00Hi,
Free Will (it'sa rap):
Free Will is a...Hi,<br /><br />Free Will (it'sa rap):<br /><br />Free Will is a pill<br />without a name<br />or a brand,<br />It's just a grand way to say:<br /><br />I know what I'm talking about.<br />I am my own brand,<br />I'm handy and I'm ready,<br />I have a plan.<br /><br />It's a heady place up here and over there I see<br />what I want.<br />So, in front I go get it and (you must agree)<br />I got it from my font of desire. <br />I have it and that's me.<br /><br />I am not a liar ?<br /><br />Sony, Nissan, I pod<br />My God,<br />My rod and my staff, don't laugh, this IS all me. . .<br />Coz I am free to buy and to purchase to lever and to holler:<br /><br />Give me a Dollar!<br />Give me a Dime!<br />Give me a watch. . .<br />So that I AM On Time. <br /><br />It's Sublime; <br />that I have the time. . . <br /><br />to recline on my couch of free will. . .<br />and consider this pill in front of me.<br /><br />And the thrill of takin it;<br />of what next to get<br />what next to buy,<br />what next to believe,<br />and on what next to rely.<br /><br />DIE ! ?<br />Who ME ?<br />No never, not now, <br />that will happen later. . .<br />I aint no fire in the great-or <br />some mate to ask out later and later. . .<br /><br />No, man, I'm livin<br />In the here and now,<br />I got free will<br />Can't you see ?<br /><br />Are you a sucker for the punch in my line?<br />Are you denying the life in your blood?<br />Well then forget it man if you whine<br />Coz I am livin the free life and it's good. . . It's fine.<br /><br />It never ends.<br />Did u send me an invite?<br />Did u mend your unwanted reality?<br />Did u write?<br />Did id you love and despair?<br />Did you dare ? ? ?<br /><br />Did you find out love bites?<br />That It's not fair?<br />and unreal. . .<br />Did you learn to feel ?<br /><br />Shit man, r u twistin my mind ?<br />R u sayin there's no free will ?<br />U aint kind, you r too much ! ! !<br /><br />Don't speak such !<br />Coz all I want to hear<br />Is my mantra dear:<br /><br />Free Will, Free Will, must take my pill,<br />Free Will, Free Will, must take my pill,<br />Free Will, Free Will, must take my pill,<br />Free Will, Free Will, must take my pill.<br /><br />Take my pill,<br />take my pill,<br />I believe I will. . .<br /><br />Paul G.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-64064752813013366922014-08-10T12:07:20.048-07:002014-08-10T12:07:20.048-07:00Hi,
As much as I try not to use this blog as a cl...Hi,<br /><br />As much as I try not to use this blog as a clandestine 'counseling service', nor interrupt with yet another searing or pompous reverberation from my own (sometimes bitter/ sometimes sweet) experience, I am totally driven by the need for membership of a sane group of followers who see the world for what it is WITH OR WITHOUT external 'balancing' stimuli. . . <br /><br />So here I go again :<br /><br />- Primal Theory seems to offer an opinion 'below' the partisan (which is all that exists 'above'). . .<br /><br />Groups which form around 'Partisan Ideals' always collapse, they are not sustainable. . .<br /><br />Richard talks of a seamless flow of reality adjustment. . . Mmmm. . . Well, that's what you get as 1 devolves to 2 and 2 devolves further to 3. Devolution gets more complex because it "INVOLVES" membership. Various people talk about 'Evolution in Reverse' but I wonder if repression / adaption / neurosis is actually INVOLUTION and the REAL EVOLUTION is the attempt and success of truly RETRIEVING those SPLIT OFF parts.<br /><br />To put it simply: could it be that true evolution is to go against the mainstream and challenge one's 'unconscious' and be actually done with it ? ? ? <br /><br />So, to my mind, what is required is a club of people who write a memorandum for all members to agree NOT on WHAT TO agree on, BUT on WHAT NOT TO DIS-agree on.<br /><br />That I feel, I think and I reason is what Primal Theory must establish better. This blog has come around again to that old (1st line) chestnut. . . Look above to see Art's new crafting of one of his older messages.<br /><br />Why? Because if Primal Theory posits ALL AFFECTS caused primarily by BRAINSTEM IMPRINTS, then it follows there is a club rule. . . IE: that we are all members to support the exploration of that brainstem in ourselves, in each member. That is our duty to our selves and therefore a commitment to that membership MUST be enshrined in commitment to re-volution in reverse. . . so to speak. But there is a social implication here. . .<br /><br />In the past we discussed a Primal newsletter and a Primal dating agency and discussions have extrapolated on that but after all this extrapolation we are none the nearer to committing to Primal Therapy.<br />Maybe there already exists an 'exoteric group' which can help people find their way into Primal but so far I am not aware of it and perhaps I havn't looked more closely at what's really possible.<br /><br />It is possible to train as a therapist but somehow I wonder if all this has done is offer 'would be (sole trading) therapists' an unfair advantage? At least from the point of view of those who know very well they NEED THERAPY, not training.<br /><br />I just need therapy, not the training. I would be lying to myself if I thought I could get therapy by applying for training as a therapist. That's why I decided to be and stuck to being a carpenter in the 1st place, many years ago . . I am still not ready to give up carpentry and I really can't imagine doing both carpentry and Primal as a therapist in training or otherwise. . . It's a great fantasy though. . . and on that note perhaps it's worth mentioning I believe Jesus should have stuck to carpentry. . .<br /><br />Paul G.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02006514330039884557noreply@blogger.com