tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post1144718869351988949..comments2024-02-11T18:16:53.445-08:00Comments on Janov's Reflections on the Human Condition: The Simple Truth is Revolutionary: Why we are Obsessed with Death.Arthur Janovhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16709863014923629409noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-23607862713418442272011-07-12T11:37:05.541-07:002011-07-12T11:37:05.541-07:00Sorry that is why I need another editor. I wri...Sorry that is why I need another editor. I write for the public but sometimes I get carried away by the science of it. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-9556695180010351302011-07-12T11:26:06.040-07:002011-07-12T11:26:06.040-07:00Richard:
I have no idea now of whom I recommended....Richard:<br />I have no idea now of whom I recommended. so let me think on it. artArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-82460262972524098352011-07-11T00:52:25.373-07:002011-07-11T00:52:25.373-07:00here's an excerpt from
Sunday, February 6, 201...here's an excerpt from<br />Sunday, February 6, 2011<br />More on the Imprint<br /><br />"The assumption by some researchers is that the process of methylation may be altered. And that possibly can be done when the patient goes back to the neurophysiologic state when the imprint occurred. It can mean changing the imprint and perhaps normalization of the cell. In other words, once that mark is made on the cell we are stressed for life until, and only until, that mark/event is revisit and relived. And it can be relived unconsciously; it can be re-experienced without a specific awareness of it once we are locked into the memory circuit." <br /><br />this is what you meant: <br />trauma may cause the cells to methylate - a crude and permanent defence.<br />during a reliving, the patient is not aware that his cells are de-methylating (returning to their de-repressed state), but he does feel the pain that was recorded while the original trauma was blocked from consciousness. <br /><br />now listen Art. everyone knows that a patient cannot make scientific observations while primalling. you didn't need to make the point about "no awareness of changes in cells". you gave an unnecessary red herring to a person who doesn't read carefully.<br /><br />your books are full of red herrings. intellectuals don't read carefully.<br />i can't re-write your explanations until i understand them. i might be able to dumb it down even further.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-4774342825100437412011-07-10T15:50:19.672-07:002011-07-10T15:50:19.672-07:00Art, a long time ago I questioned you about your t...Art, a long time ago I questioned you about your theory of how the different parts of the brain connect to form the type of consciousness that is necessary to primal. It seems to me that you are saying the lower feeling centres must connect to the right cortex and across to the left cortex in order for a deep feeling to become a fully conscious experience. i got confused because i thought you were talking about the 3rd line, 2nd line, and 1st line, and how they all interpret a feeling at different stages of a primal.....with the left cortex being the final participant (insights) after the reliving has occurred.<br /><br />you suggested i read a certain author to find out how the brain works. i apologise...i didn't take note. can you please give me his name again?Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-54086812836680827122011-07-10T10:44:27.681-07:002011-07-10T10:44:27.681-07:00Richard: I never remember saying something like th...Richard: I never remember saying something like that. Are you sure you got it right? Patients who are advanced have relived surgery. My best description of all this is found in Primal Healing, consciousness versus awareness. you need to be consciously aware to primal. art janovArthur Janovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18009571728800026496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3420173096635836108.post-4984691111969044172011-07-09T22:34:49.595-07:002011-07-09T22:34:49.595-07:00Art, somewhere in this blog site (i can't find...Art, somewhere in this blog site (i can't find it) i think you said "sometimes a person can primal unconsciously". <br /><br />that would be an unfelt primal, and the primaller would have no memory of the primal. do you understand the definition of unconsciousness? when a person is unconscious, he is unable to feel or perceive anything at all. he is effectively dead.<br /><br />was it just a mistake in your wording?<br /><br />i am interested in the purpose of consciousness. it seems to be necessary for healing. <br />but while my testicle was being sewn to my scrotum (ouch?) i was totally unconscious. or was i? <br />is it possible for surgery to be psychologically traumatic? <br />my mother became half-awake and remained that way through most of her operation (anaesthetist's error apparently). she said it was hell.Richard Atkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13587935146938446604noreply@blogger.com